Guest guest Posted December 13, 2002 Report Share Posted December 13, 2002 Whoever or whatever... teaches, inspires and guides is a Guru. The Guru realization is critical for moving forward in sadhana (human evolutionary process). GRIHASTA SANNYASA ........... ............ ' ' ' ' Guru in Idols and forms (Bakthi) | Guru in | scriptures and role models | | | | Guru in | | self | | | -oo <-|--|---|-----0---------|->+oo | | No Guru self duality Guru | in person | (Guru kula) Guru in Abstract forces and Energies (Agni, Vaayu, Kundalini...) '...........' '.....' BRAHMACHARIA VANAPRASTHA As one evolves (from left to right) the sadhaka's ability of acceptance grows. Sadhaka starts gradually imbibing the direction and inspiration from more sources. The evolution may correspond to four asramas the sadhaka passes through at different point in times. Pranam to this enlightened Group ... V.Srinivasan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2002 Report Share Posted December 15, 2002 Dear Sri V. Srinivasan, I am intrigued by this conception of aspects of the guru relative to the four ashrama of life. Unfortunately, the formatting of the text seems to have become garbled so that I have difficulty analysing it fully. A further post on the same subject would be most welcome. Pranaams, Shivaram advaitin, "V.Srinivasan <test0001@u...>" <test0001@u...> wrote: > Whoever or whatever... teaches, inspires and guides is a Guru. The > Guru realization is critical for moving forward in sadhana (human > evolutionary process). > > GRIHASTA SANNYASA > ........... ............ > ' ' ' ' > Guru in Idols > and forms > (Bakthi) > | Guru in > | scriptures and role models > | | > | | Guru in > | | self > | | | > -oo <-|--|---|-----0---------|->+oo > | | No Guru self duality > Guru | > in person | > (Guru kula) Guru in > Abstract forces > and Energies > (Agni, Vaayu, Kundalini...) > '...........' '.....' > BRAHMACHARIA VANAPRASTHA > > As one evolves (from left to right) the sadhaka's ability of > acceptance grows. Sadhaka starts gradually imbibing the direction and > inspiration from more sources. The evolution may correspond to four > asramas the sadhaka passes through at different point in times. > > Pranam to this enlightened Group ... > V.Srinivasan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2002 Report Share Posted December 17, 2002 advaitin, "Shivaram Das <conte@i...>" <conte@i...> wrote: > Dear Sri V. Srinivasan, > > I am intrigued by this conception of aspects of the guru relative to the four ashrama of life. Unfortunately, the formatting of the text seems to have become garbled so that I have difficulty analysing it fully. A further post on the same subject would be most welcome. > > Pranaams, > Shivaram Pranam Shivaram-ji, I replaced the empty space with a dot in an attempt to give a backbone to the graph. Its good when you view it through escribes website. Here i've contrasted it with one other representation from previous post # :15032... Brahmacharya: Child has very little reasoning power. If you check the reasons of their actions it would be "mom/dad or teacher told....". Hence imparting knowledge and guidance needs physical proximity to a teacher (who can teach physical,emotional and intellectual control)..Since the child lives the intent of the parent or teacher it is not responsible for its actions and hence does not accumulate vasanas... As it grows it acquires knowledge and hence the reasoning power starts working...it eventually defines its own goal and destiny and evolves to a state of a Grihasta. Here the human lives his or her intent and hence is totally responsible for its actions. Hence they get into the cycle of creating and living the vasanas...( Every action has equal and opposite reaction -- applies to all materials...Every intent for the action or a non-action has equal and opposite reaction which is called vasana -- applies to all living beings with intent ) In this stage the Grihasta has to graduate on vairagya in doing the right thing(dharma) as the role of life (Karma) warrants ie., as a sibling, as a parent, as an employee, as a friend, as a spouse, as a citizen, as a neighbour, as a satsanger, as a... To acheive it one needs to master total surrender(bhakthi) to a deity and/or to a process (nithya karma). After attainig sort of equanimity one should gradually start acquiring the higher knowledge from scriptures (for guidance and direction) and start attempting to live the lines (sadhana) to trancend this state...Since this stage in life is very heavy and tricky with millions of caveats... many get struck in one stage or other during their life time. I sometimes feel it equivalent to the booster stage in a rocket launch . ..... to be continued ........GRIHASTA....SANNYASA ......+++++++++++..++++++++++++ ......|..........|.|...........| ....Guru in Idols .....and forms ......(Bakthi) ..........|..Guru in ..........|.scriptures and role models ..........|...| ..........|...|..Guru in ..........|...|...self ..........|...|.....| -oo <-|--|---|-----0---------|->+oo .....|.........|.......No Guru self duality .....Guru........| ...in person.....| ..(Guru kula)..Guru in .............Abstract forces ..............and Energies ............(Agni, Vaayu, Kundalini...) |...........|.|......| +++++++++++...++++++ BRAHMACHARIA...VANAPRASTHA ........Material ........Humanstate ............|.Sadhaka ............|..state ............|...|...Savikalpa ............|...|....state.....Nirvikalpa state ............|...|.....|.........| -oo <-|--|-|---|-----0---------|->+oo .......|..| .......|.ignorant/childish state ......Animal state Pranams to advaitins V.Srinivasan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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