Guest guest Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 Namaste: Happy Holidays to all. This is a season of giving and caring for needy families and children who need help. In the United States there is greater awareness on the needs of fellow citizens and those who have open their heart and share a portion of their wealth to the poor. As spiritual seekers, we should adopt this great tradition of sharing and giving without any hesitation. The upcoming holidays are quite suitable for contemplation and soul searching and let us focus our attention on the following questions: Who am I? What is my role and obligation? Am I spiritually maturing? What are the indicators of spiritual maturity? Does age a factor in measuring spiritual maturity? What are my obligations for spiritual maturity? Is spiritual maturity necessary for human liberation? How can I help others to grow spiritually? How can this list contribute towards spiritual maturity? What is the role of intellectual discussions towards spiritual maturity? Why should I believe in God? Does it really matter whether I believe in God or not? How should the list proceed during the upcoming New-year? I earnestly request all members to discuss questions outlined above. Please feel free to add more such questions and we can all help each other by posing and answering them. The list has currently over 610 members coming from different parts of this universe with different ethnic, religious and language background. This is a great opportunity for all of us because we believe unity in the diversity and we all have the same common goal! Warmest regards, Ram Chandran Note: This list can't operate without members' contribution in the form of questions, discussions and articles. Lately, everyone seems to think that someone will do it and waits for that someone! As Swami Chinmayanada once said, that someone is YOU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 Namaste. Ram Chandranji writes: ....... This list can't operate without members' contribution in the form of questions, discussions and articles. Lately, everyone seems to think that someone will do it and waits for that someone! As Swami Chinmayanada once said, that someone is YOU ---------------------------- Ram Chandranji. Your clarion call is very appropriate and timely. I want to supplement your call by quoting an anecdote in the form of a personal experience, just to remind ourselves that ‘even a little effort in this direction can be of great help’ (cf. svalpam-apy-asya dharmasya trAyate mahato bhayAt - Gita II – 40). It was the year 1980. I had just returned from the U.S.(after one year of sabbatical) back to my BITS Pilani. Very soon, the Secretary of the newly formed association called Vivekananda Samithi, at BITS, contacted me and invited me to talk in their association. I chose a title: Can a good scientist be a true Hindu?. The lecture went off very well because first of all there was a large audience (probably 250 or so) and secondly there were, after the 40 minutes of my monologue, 90 minutes of varied questions and my answers. At the end of the day I felt happy about the curiosity of the students and decided to do something more substantial to satisfy the curiosity of the students. So I posted a notice on my office door saying that since there seemed to be many questions (on spirituality and Hinduism) lurking in the minds of the students, I was willing to meet them formally every Saturday afternoon for about two hours, provided enough students showed interest. I asked them to sign below my notice to express their interest. By the evening there were around 150 signatures. So that Saturday we met for my first meeting with them. Around 200 (all in the age group 17 – 22) were present, in spite of the fact that day happened to be a One-day Cricket match day. Actually the meetings continued for several Saturdays thereafter. But what happened on that first Saturday to one of my student-listeners is what is relevant now. I naturally started by giving an overview of Hinduism, because the questions they had been asking at the previous lecture of mine had clearly indicated to me that they had to know the essential basics of the religion first, before they could participate in a meaningful dialogue. I don’t remember what exactly I said on that first Saturday meeting, but very possibly I should have, among other things, also mentioned the concept of ‘Atman’ and its permanence among all the other transient things like body, mind and intellect. At the end of the lecture, this particular student who must have been in the hall listening to me raptly, came to me and congratulated me (!) for what he thought was an original idea from me. When I probed further, he said: ‘Sir, that is a tremendous idea – the idea of the Atman. That it is the only reality behind every person and that it is unaffected by anything that happens to the body – Oh, this is a wonderful idea, Sir. ....’ When he went on like this, I probed about his background, where he came from and so on. He said he came from a brahmin family in Madras, he was just in his second year at BITS. When I probed further, I discovered that he had never heard of the word ‘Atman’ , nobody had ever hinted to him that when the body dies there is an Atman which does not die and so on. It was all a great surprise to me that someone who had lived and grown up in the traditional atmosphere of Madras brahmin background would not have ever heard about even this simple fact that behind the perishable body there was an imperishable soul! What was more funny was that he thought that all that was an original idea of mine!! Well, I come to our point now. This student, I later learnt, has gone deep into spirituality after that incident. The point of this all is to tell ourselves that EVEN SIMPLE THINGS WHICH EVERYBODY TAKES FOR GRANTED CAN SPARK OFF THE URGE AND CURIOSITY OF SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE, SOME TIME, SOMEHOW. So let us all open up and take the questions of Ram Chandranji and similar questions seriously and seek the Truth, not just for ourselves, but for the whole group. praNAms to all advaitins profvk ===== Prof. V. Krishnamurthy My website on Science and Spirituality is http://www.geocities.com/profvk/ You can access my book on Gems from the Ocean of Hindu Thought Vision and Practice, and my father R. Visvanatha Sastri's manuscripts from the site. Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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