Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 Loneliness and Aloneness: Is our fear of aloneness based on a memory of loneliness? Do we associate the fact of being completely alone, outwardly and inwardly, with frightening memories of loneliness and despair? Do we confuse two entirely different states of awareness? Are we turning away from our own highest potential by a fear of something unrelated? What is aloneness? What is loneliness? Why do we confuse the two? Can we break free from the shackles of the known to embrace complete aloneness and total freedom? Can we thereby banish loneliness, forever, from our hearts? Can we rid ourselves of the fear of loneliness by being completely, unconditionally alone? Is aloneness the only antidote to loneliness? Being completely, unconditionally alone is our natural state. Therefore, it is a state of peace and rest, clarity and contentment. This is true physically and spiritually. In physical terms, each of us is born alone, lives alone and dies alone. What I mean by this is that another human being or pet may be a fellow passenger for a part of our life's journey. Yet, we are always, from birth to death, with ourselves. Relationships begin and end. There is togetherness with and separation from another. This may be on account of various reasons, voluntary or forced, physical, psychological, emotional or circumstantial. The companionship of another, the love of another, the constant presence of another, however intimate and loving, has limitations of various kinds. Yet, we are, from birth to death, constantly with ourselves. Thus, aloneness is a physical fact. Our learnt response to facts can sometimes create a learnt discomfort for facts. A learnt response, born of dependence and inadequacy, is loneliness. Aloneness is a fact. It is a natural state and is universal. Loneliness is a cultivated and learnt response, born of a selective identification with people and places as "mine". The notional split of "mine" and "not mine" creates the fear and despair of loneliness. We have learnt to identify with some people and places on the basis of familiarity and likes. We are comfortable with the known, however miserable it may be. We call it "mine". It gives us a sense of comfort and apparent freedom, although momentary, from fear. The fear arises from the belief in "another", the uncertain and the unknown, which is categorized as "not mine" because it is unfamiliar or because we dislike it. The compartmentalisation of people and places into two opposing groups, one of whom we identify with, sets the stage for fear and loneliness. It is a learnt response, a product of conditioning. We seek the comfort of the familiar known which we have learnt to identify as our own. The unfamiliar unknown is feared as being "other" and "another". It is the notional split in our minds that is the source of our fear, loneliness and despair. Our dualistic perception, our thought process based on a dichotomy of "we" and "they" creates fear and loneliness. Since the problem arises within our own minds, the solution also lies within us. The only remedy for our innate fear and anxiety, our lonelieness, alienation and sorrow is to heal the split within our own minds. The only way to return to our natural state of spontaneity, love, peace, joy and contentment is to return to our deepest self, the very substratum of our awareness beyond words, memory and thought. Our natural state is one of unitive, infinite awareness. This awareness sees in a unitive way, a direct perception free from the limitations and dichotomies of thought. It sees life as one, understands the essential oneness of all creation. In this unitive perception, there is no "other". Another human being is essentially like me, we are two waves in a single ocean. Since there is no notional split, no "another", no compartments of "we" and "they", there is only a complete oneness. This oneness is aloneness. The experience of oneness is the state of bing truly alone. For, here, the other is no different from my own self. His joys and sorrows are my own. This compassion is universal and not selective. It is spontaneous and not cultivated. All our fear, our anxiety, our alienation, our conflict, hatred and sorrow ends in this unitive state of oneness with all that exists. This oneness is a unitive perception, not a destruction and demolition of diversity of forms, of individuality and of uniqueness. In fact, with an underlying awareness of unity beyond definition and description, we are able to keenly appreciate and understand the uniqueness of every person and every moment. Comparative and judgemental perception disappear. We see life with an unmatched freshness, free from memory and conditioning. Aloneness, then, is a state of unmatched splendour. It is a realization of our innate and ultimate potential. For, in this state, we are at peace and in harmony with life as it is, with the whole of creation. We are not in a state of expectation of what people or things should be. We are not caught in a notional split of "we" and "they". We are free from the fragmentary awareness of thought. We are free from the narrow compartments of learnt responses. The state of aloneness is one of indescribable ecstasy and freedom. It is completely liberating and deeply fulfilling, a complete break from the self imposed shackles of loneliness and fear. Loneliness and fear are self imposed slavery but aloneness is the ecstasy of total freedom. 2003 Ashok Gollerkeri http://www.ashokgollerkeri.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 --- "ASHOK GOLLERKERI <ashok_gollerkeri" <ashok_gollerkeri wrote: > Loneliness and Aloneness: > > Is our fear of aloneness based on a memory of > loneliness? Namaste Ashok, You write of a condition of mind/superimposition in mind that dominates all but a few of us. People fill their homes with the babble of TVs and CD players and run from such a state of rest. Yehudi Menuhin, the great violinist, writes of the condition in the West of the 'Capsuled Existence'. Food is processed and capsuled, we live behind closed doors, our religion and education comes to us in capsules, prepacked by others. We rarely know of direct experience with the manifest world let alone the direct experience of Brahman (pratibha, anubhava). This state is the result of adhyasa, superimposition from some past idea, and avidya, ignorance. The fruit of such a state is the fear of aloneness of which you write. In my research of religious experiences there is a common statement about the loss of this fear. It is often related to the concept of 'the void' which is of course a statement of ignorance and superimposition. Here is one example from archives held at a university in Wales: 'During adolescence I suffered an acute shock pyschologically for family reasons. A strange thing happens. (The writer changes her account to the present tense). All the fabric of my life falls away..all that I am, my personality, everything. For a moment I fear what the oncoming total obliteration of myself will be like. Then I find that the utter void which has taken place of my former awareness is a fulness, in which I am most mysteriously and wonderfully supported.' Please note that the writer knew nothing of kaivalya or the ISha Upanishad and had to use words from her own context in order to describe what she had known. Would you regard such a statement as confirming your own thesis? The same lady also had a later experience during a serious car crash....a common event for waking us up from our capsules. '..I was lying, supposedly unconscious with injuries to face and leg in front of our car. I became aware of what I can only call Life. This wonderful quality came into the body two or three times and departed, requiring me to breathe, it seemed, to support it. It came in waves of sheer bliss. Strangely, as the two cars collided I had experienced a change of time scale to this slow time that others have recorded. The oncoming car floated slowly and with great beauty, the lamplight playing on the chromium radiator. There was no sense whatever of impending doom since I was not even looking...it has been my feeling since this occurrence that my last moments would nevertheless have been blissful, notwithstanding that others seeing the somewhat crumpled mess might have pitied me.' In such statements as these we can discern the teachings of advaita and kaivalya. If any of you have knowledge of other accounts could you please have a look at my research website www.nonameorform.co.uk and the questionnaire to be found there. I hope that the above illustrates Ashok's very valuable essay on aloneness, which is often written as all-one-ness. To end with a question: 'Would it be foolish to ask if the Self prostrates to Itself in this final state of alloneness or is this question being put in too dualistic a manner?' Peace Ken Knight Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 Namaste Shri Gollerkeri. In what way is your "aloneness" different from fullness, which advaita untiringly affirms? If both are the same, do you have any reasons for the rechristening? The word "aloneness" is still disturbing from the advaitin's point of view as it encompasses a "lone" within it and points at some remnant of separation. If anything, it looks and sounds not much different from loneliness although I am trying to understand it differently as you mean. In contrast, fullness, as we all know, is the other name for ananda in sat-chit-ananda - our real nature. All three are synonyms according to advaita. The whole of your thought-provoking post points at that ananda. That is the reason for my questions about the rechristening. Kenji, I read your response to Shri Gollerkeri. Do we need car crashes to tell us that we are full? Don't we lose ourselves and our separate identies evanesce times without number in our routine existence - such as when we see a beautiful flower, read exalted poetry, or when we solve a very engrossing mathematical problem (I am sure mathematicians among us will vouch for this!), or when our heart goes out to others in their suffering and eyes well up when we empathize? Such things happen because we are limitless and we often come out of our shells to our limitlessness - even without meditation or samAdhi. Pranams. Madathil Nair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2003 Report Share Posted January 9, 2003 --- "Madathil Rajendran Nair <madathilnair" <madathilnair wrote: > Kenji, I read your response to Shri Gollerkeri. Do > we need car > crashes to tell us that we are full? Don't we lose > ourselves and our > separate identies evanesce times without number in > our routine > existence Namaste Madathil, Yes indeed but when the veils have become thick curtains a little rajas is needed to enable true seeing. Car crashes can be very good at that as well as many other events which we call emergencies because of our attachments to name and form. The example I quoted was one of many and there is much to be learned from them just as there is from any other waking moment, such as you described. I will briefly give my own experience. As a young man I was settling into a career as a professional sportsman with all the fun and temporary fame accumulating. A lorry hit a car which hit me and after a long rehabilitation there was no career to be had in sport because of the injuries to the body. BUT, that crash directly brought me to the feet of people in Banaras and the future study of advaita. So from experience I will affirm that the moments of the crash can be enlightening as well as the fruits of the event. Prarabhda has many events awaiting us and whether sweet or sour we can learn from the taste. Good to hear from you again and a Happy New Year to you, Ken Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Madathil Rajendran Nair <madathilnair wrote: > Namaste Shri Gollerkeri. > > In what way is your "aloneness" different from fullness, which > advaita untiringly affirms? If both are the same, do you have any > reasons for the rechristening? The word "aloneness" is still > disturbing from the advaitin's point of view as it encompasses > a "lone" within it and points at some remnant of separation. If > anything, it looks and sounds not much different from loneliness > although I am trying to understand it differently as you mean. In > contrast, fullness, as we all know, is the other name for ananda in > sat-chit-ananda - our real nature. All three are synonyms according > to advaita. The whole of your thought-provoking post points at that > ananda. That is the reason for my questions about the rechristening. > > [...] > > Pranams. > > Madathil Nair > namaste. It is nice to be back on the List again. To bring together shri Madathil's and shri Gollerkeri's perspectives, we need only to refer to Br^ihadAraNyaka upanishad 1.4.2 where it says, before creation, paramAtman, as ekAkI is afraid (dissatisfied) of its aloneness. The dissatisfaction of being ekAkI led to the beginning of the will to create. Please see my further post on fear as continuation. Regards Gummuluru Murthy ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2003 Report Share Posted January 14, 2003 Just a note on this subject. Osho (wash my mouth out!) had a lot to say on this subject in many of his books. Here is a brief extract from 'The True Sage' so you can get the spirit of what he says: "Up there, it is absolutely alone. That's why Mahavir has called it 'kaivalya'. 'Kaivalya' means absolute aloneness. But the quality of aloneness is totally different from loneliness. In the dictionaries they may both mean the same; I'm not talking about the dictionary. But in life's experience they are absolutely different. Aloneness means presence of your being -- so full of yourself, so totally in yourself that the other is not needed. Aloneness is sufficient unto itself. Loneliness is missing something, loneliness is a gap -- where the other was or where you would like the other to be. Loneliness is a wound. Aloneness is a flowering. You are so happy to be yourself; you are not missing anything. You are totally yourself -- settled, content." Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2003 Report Share Posted January 14, 2003 Dennisji: Thank you for Osho's quote. He is so precise, so direct and so effective in what he says or writes. To me he appearsto be one of the greatest thinkers of last century. Shanti Mehta - Dennis Waite advaitin Tuesday, January 14, 2003 1:02 PM RE: Loneliness and Aloneness Just a note on this subject. Osho (wash my mouth out!) had a lot to say on this subject in many of his books. Here is a brief extract from 'The True Sage' so you can get the spirit of what he says: "Up there, it is absolutely alone. That's why Mahavir has called it 'kaivalya'. 'Kaivalya' means absolute aloneness. But the quality of aloneness is totally different from loneliness. In the dictionaries they may both mean the same; I'm not talking about the dictionary. But in life's experience they are absolutely different. Aloneness means presence of your being -- so full of yourself, so totally in yourself that the other is not needed. Aloneness is sufficient unto itself. Loneliness is missing something, loneliness is a gap -- where the other was or where you would like the other to be. Loneliness is a wound. Aloneness is a flowering. You are so happy to be yourself; you are not missing anything. You are totally yourself -- settled, content." Dennis Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of Atman and Brahman. Advaitin List Archives available at: http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ To Post a message send an email to : advaitin Messages Archived at: advaitin/messages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2003 Report Share Posted January 14, 2003 Namaste Dennis-Ji. Thanks for the clarifying quote. Osho has literally washed my entrails out! I have always shied away from his writings, what with all the things said about him. It is perhaps time I rethought. I can see my aloneness flowering as I hammer here on the keyboard. So long then till the 'lone' begins to bother me again. Pranams. Madathil Nair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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