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Namaste.

 

He is Dr. Deepak Chopra.

 

A very successful writer commercially who mixes language flourish,

Indian thoughts and medicine in right proportions and markets the

mixture in chocolate-style wrapping to a greedy readership in the

West. He may be irrestible with all this, but why do we have to look

at him to understand Awareness? His idea of Awareness is still vague

and you can't find the needed methodology in his books.

 

Besides, the feared war is going to be reality only because the

parties concerned believe that there is 'only one mind' and that is

theirs!

 

PranAms.

 

Madathil Nair

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Namaste.

advaitin, "Madathil Rajendran Nair

<madathilnair>" <madathilnair> wrote:

> Namaste.

>

> He is Dr. Deepak Chopra.

>

> He may be irrestible with all this, but why do we have to look

> at him to understand Awareness?

 

It is because,

"Aano bhadrah kritavo yantu vishwatah"...

Let noble thoughts come to us from everywhere

... In the spirit of Universality of wisdom even in a cat's meow.

>His idea of Awareness is still vague

> and you can't find the needed methodology in his books.

>

 

Well, I have not read any of his books, but, the synopsis posted

earlier states that half of the book covers practical details.

 

> Besides, the feared war is going to be reality only because the

> parties concerned believe that there is 'only one mind' and that

>is theirs!

This tends to become a political approach.

 

Regards,

Raghava

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Namaste.

 

I have replied you directly as what I have to say does'nt concern the

other Members.

 

Madathil Nair

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advaitin, "raghavakaluri <raghavakaluri>"

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Dear and Esteemed Advaitin Members,

 

Namaste.

 

"My mind is rambling; and O Keshava, I behold evil omens."

 

It is very hard to seek Advaitic understanding while much of the time one

is feeling heart-broken about the prospect of war equally as much as one is

worried over the dire consequences of inaction. It is difficult or

impossible for me to meditate these days although I know the only solution

lies in the spiritual. Thus it is that I am deeply conflicted over the

dreadful situation and I would be surprised if the rest of our members did

not share something of the same feeling.

 

On Fri, 07 Feb 2003 05:00:03 -0000, raghavakaluri <raghavakaluri

<raghavakaluri wrote:

> advaitin, "Madathil Rajendran Nair

> <madathilnair>" <madathilnair> wrote:

>> His idea of Awareness is still vague and you can't find the needed

>> methodology in his books.

>>

> Well, I have not read any of his books, but, the synopsis posted earlier

> states that half of the book covers practical details.

 

Dr. Chopra's method reminds me of the introductory lectures to

Transcendental Meditation which I heard many years ago. They are replete

with tangential approaches to the subject but for the full picture one must

apply to the teacher with offerings in hand. Unfortunately we don't have

that luxury of business-as-usual in the present instance.

>> Besides, the feared war is going to be reality only because the parties

>> concerned believe that there is 'only one mind' and that is theirs!

>

> This tends to become a political approach.

 

How can we articulate an approach that is neither escapist (for which Sri

Madathil rightly faults Dr. Chopra) nor partisan political? When I was in

college in the 1960s I felt it incumbent upon myself to oppose the Vietnam

War. Like many young people at the time I was interested in the teachings

of the East, particularly the holy Bhagavad Gita, but I was never able to

find support in the Gita for the non-violent position I wished to

articulate. Most unwillingly I felt compelled to take sides. Now, three

decades later, I understand the problem no better than I did then.

 

Perhaps the help of the moderators and our love for one another may enable

us to approach this matter in a manner that will be productive of the

spiritual insight that will lift us out of this dreadful despondency.

 

Pranaams,

 

Shivaram

 

 

--

"0 my Naren, are you still not convinced? He who was Rama and Krishna is

now Ramakrishna - but not in your Vedantic sense!" - Sri Ramakrishna

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advaitin, Shivaram <conte@i...> wrote:

> Dear and Esteemed Advaitin Members,

>

> Namaste.

>

> "My mind is rambling; and O Keshava, I behold evil omens."

>

> It is very hard to seek Advaitic understanding while much of the

time one

> is feeling heart-broken about the prospect of war equally as much

as one is

> worried over the dire consequences of inaction- but not in your

Vedantic sense!" - Sri Ramakrishna

 

Namaste,

 

Chopra is good for the 'Pop', culture and those that want to try and

understand a little Vedanta written in a western way. This is why he

is so successful. However I doubt he is realised so cannot teach the

ultimate from experience. He is a little vague in his books, but look

at his audience vague vague, monkey minds.

 

I was talking to my daughter the other night and she said 'can you

feel it?' That is the negative atmosphere prevalent on the planet

right now. I said yes I could.

 

If the war happens it is karmic, only the Goddess with Grace can

change her own dream. The Gita's war is about internal battles to

realisation. Most westerners don't see that. I'm afraid the amount of

awareness needed to fully understand Vedanta takes a lot of time,

study, reading and absorption plus Grace.

 

When one feels so negative and it is hard to meditate, I do the

sarvana asana pose and then go into yoga nidra, the meditation

continues in the mind anyway.......ONS.....Tony.

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advaitin, Shivaram <conte@i...> wrote:

> "My mind is rambling; and O Keshava, I behold evil omens."

>

> It is very hard to seek Advaitic understanding while much of the

time one

> is feeling heart-broken about the prospect of war equally as much

as one is

> worried over the dire consequences of inaction.

 

Namaste,

 

Swami Rama Tirtha:

 

 

http://www.ramatirtha.org/

 

"

Rama's Clarion Call

 

Wanted —Reformers

Not of others

but of themselves,

Who have won

Not university distinctions,

But victory over the local self.

 

Age —The youth of Divine joy.

 

Salary —Godhead.

 

Apply Sharp—With no begging solicitation but commanding decision to

the Director of the Universe, Your own Self.

 

Om! Om! Om! "

========================================================

 

His complete works are online at:

 

http://www.ramatirtha.org/freebooks.htm

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Sunder

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On Fri, 07 Feb 2003 17:16:48 -0000, Tony O'Clery <aoclery

<aoclery wrote:

> Chopra is good for the 'Pop', culture and those that want to try and

> understand a little Vedanta written in a western way. This is why he is

> so successful. However I doubt he is realised so cannot teach the

> ultimate from experience. He is a little vague in his books, but look at

> his audience vague vague, monkey minds.

 

Again I recall the early days of TM - everyone must needs start somewhere,

so I won't gainsay the popularizers of Vedanta. I myself have been a

beneficiary.

> I was talking to my daughter the other night and she said 'can you feel

> it?' That is the negative atmosphere prevalent on the planet right now. I

> said yes I could.

 

As can I. I always knew amulets, astrological remedies and incense

wouldn't go very far to relieve the burdens of this life and its eventual

dissolution, so I invested myself in meditation. But this crisis and

ongoing tribulation since 9/11 has served to reveal the shallowness of even

that undertaking. It is painfully evident how necessary is a deeper

release from the whole burden of worldliness.

> If the war happens it is karmic, only the Goddess with Grace can change

> her own dream. The Gita's war is about internal battles to realisation.

> Most westerners don't see that. I'm afraid the amount of awareness needed

> to fully understand Vedanta takes a lot of time, study, reading and

> absorption plus Grace.

 

Grace - the only word that lights a spark of hope. Grace alone moves

freely when there is no way or reason to still the restlessness and torment

of the mind. Thank you for setting it before us.

 

Pranaams,

 

Shivaram

 

 

 

 

--

"0 my Naren, are you still not convinced? He who was Rama and Krishna is

now Ramakrishna - but not in your Vedantic sense!" - Sri Ramakrishna

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Namaste, Dear and Esteemed Sri Sunder,

 

Thank you for offering these links. I have begun reading the books and

find it is a most worthwhile undertaking in the present circumstances.

 

Pranaams,

Shivaram

 

 

On Fri, 07 Feb 2003 18:45:45 -0000, Sunder Hattangadi <sunderh

<sunderh wrote:

> Namaste,

>

> Swami Rama Tirtha:

>

> http://www.ramatirtha.org/

> His complete works are online at:

> http://www.ramatirtha.org/freebooks.htm

>

> Regards,

> Sunder

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