Guest guest Posted March 1, 2003 Report Share Posted March 1, 2003 Namaste: These comments are from Swamij's Bhagavadgita Homestudy Guide and they can help us to strengthen our standing within the confinement of Advaita Philosophy. I once agains wants to express my gratitude to Arshavidya Gurukulam for permitting me to quote appropriate portions of those notes for the Satsangh. Those who are interested to get the complete notes (over 1200 pages of written materials) should contact http://www.arshavidya.org directly. Warmest regards, Ram Chandran Swami Dayananda Saraswati on " Upadhi's influence on the Gradation in Knowledge." A jiva is kincijjnah because he has avidya-upadhi, which seemingly limits atma. Whereas Isvara has an upadhi, called maya, which does not limit. On the other hand, it makes atma omniscient and the cause of the world. Then in the expressed form, the jiva has a given buddhi through which he can know some things. But Isvara, through maya-upadhi is sarvajnah. The concealing power, avarana-sakti, of maya is present in the jiva so he cannot know everything. Whereas for Isvara, that avarana does not exist. There is only the capacity to create. Thus, the very maya which keeps the jiva under its spell becomes a glory for Isvara. That is the first vibhuti. Maya itself becomes the vibhuti for Paramesvara saccidananda atma. The buddhi is limited because it has a location. It operates in a sthula-upadhi depending upon brain ceils and so on. Whereas maya is not limited at all because it is the cause of everything. How do you know this? It is established by the Sastra. Therefore, the one who is in the form of Krsna is conditioned by maya-upadhi. By his own words in the fourth chapter, Lord Krsna presents himself as Isvara, or Vyasa presents him as Isvara. This being so, the knower, the subject, who is conditioned by the physical body recognized as Krsna, has maya as his upadhi. Keeping the maya under control, a particular form is born. Since he is avatara, he is not forced into this birth by the strength of his own karma. The assumption of a body is at the will of Isvara. It is voluntary. And for him there is omniscience but the gods like Indra are limited in knowledge. Therefore, the devas he talked about in the previous verse, do not know about his glory. They are all jivas enjoying their own limited buddhis so their knowledge will be only limited. >From the standpoint of upadhi, the jiva is kincijnah, Isvara is sarvajnah. Saccidananda atma obtaining in a given upadhi is called a knower, pramata. Atma is called the pramata, not the upadhi, not the buddhi. The same saccidananda with maya upadhi becomes Isvara pramata who is sarvajnah. Viewed from the standpoint of upadhi, identity between jiva and Isvara is not possible. But the pramata is not real; it is adhyasikam, mithya. Although there seems to be a difference, essentially there is no difference. In reality the jiva is Isvara, saccidananda atma, pure awareness that is one non- dual. This identity is revealed by the mahavakya, tattvamasi. Like a wave and the ocean. If the wave is told that it is the ocean, it will say, "How can I be the ocean? The ocean was there before I was born." Then the wave realizes the implied meaning of "you" is water and the immediate meaning is wave. Wave and ocean are purely namarupa upadhi. There is no wave or ocean but merely a certain form for which a name is given. On analysis one finds both ocean and wave are water. That alone counts. There is no real difference. If you count names and forms, in the ocean there are many waves, breakers, etc. Now1 count water and see if there is any additional wave or ocean. All that is there is water. That is the knowledge of non duality. Only in the body of Krsna is awareness conditioned by maya. In our physical bodies, it is the same awareness conditioned by ignorance, buddhi etc. How do you distinguish this? Krsna has a body and so does Arjuna. Arjuna's atma is caitanya and Krsna's atma is caitanya. His caitanya is conditioned by his body, mind and senses and my caitanya is conditioned by body, mind and senses. How can you say my caitanya is conditioned by ignorance and his is conditioned by maya? Only from the standpoint of limited knowledge, kiftcijjnatva. and omniscience, sarvajiiatva. He knows and I do not. There is nothing unknown to him whereas everything is unknown to me except the little I know. Krsna is talking here about things that a man of limited knowledge cannot talk about at all. As long as there is vyavahara, empirical life, jiva is jiva and Isvara is Isvara. As pramatah, knowers, there is no identity between jivas, including the devas like Indra and Varuna. But from the standpoint of Paramatma there is no difference whatsoever between them as well as between jiva and Isvara. Even though Isvara is a pramata. the knower, he has omniscience, sarvajiiatva. Therefore he can say, "Even the risis and the devas do not know what I am going to tell you. Being omniscient, it is proper for Krsna to say so. Even the devas and the maharisis do not know me because I am the cause of every one of them and am sarvajnah while everyone else is alpajnah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2003 Report Share Posted March 2, 2003 Namaste: The gradation of knowledge summarized by Swami Dayanandaji is quite essential for understanding the distinction between Nirguna Brahman, Saguna Brahman and Jiva: The Nirguna Brahman is the unmanifested Brahman without mAyA; The Saguna Brhaman or Isvara is the manifested Brahman with the mAyA and Jiva is the manifested Brahman with the Avidya. For the Jivas, the most important question is: How to get rid of Avidya? Avidya is likely present, as long as Jiva is present! Jiva can transform into Isvara by surrendering the ego to the Lord with total devotion. Only by surrendering the power of mAyA which was responsible for creation, jiva ultimately realizes the Nirguna Brahman! Warmest regards, Ram Chandran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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