Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 friends, I have been reading a book by sri sadguru gnananda of tapovanam at thirukovilur.in that he says, " Rare indeed is human birth. Having attained it, one should know its goal and reach it. Our ancient seers and sages have shown us the path. They have revealed to us that realisation of the supreme one, the father of the universe is the purushartha or the prime aim of human life". There are many paths for achieving it. First is bhakti, to stand clinging to god. Next is the path of yoga of desireless action, which leads to bhakti. Third comes gnana, culmination of the pursuit along the path of desireless action and clinging to him-in being one with him in bliss. each of them again follows three courses determined by three gunas or modes of prakriti or nature.in bhakti,para bhakti or higher bhakti is considered the noblest; in yoga, para yoga or higher yoga is the best;untrammelled bliss in the self is the great height of gana or knowledge. By bhakti is ment the clinging to the Supreme one, giving up all attachments to the body, life and worldly objects. To those who have climbed to the height of Para Bhakti, the supreme reveals itself by itself and this phase is known as Para yoga or higher yoga. pranams. cdr bvn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2003 Report Share Posted May 1, 2003 advaitin, "vaidyanathiyer" <vaidyanathiyer> wrote: .. By bhakti is meant the > clinging to the Supreme one, giving up all attachments to the body, > life and worldly objects. Namaste, adR^iShTe darshanotkaNThA dR^iShTe vishleSha bhIrutA . nAdR^iShTena na dR^iSTena bhavatA labhyate sukham.h .. [bhakti Martanda] "Bhakti is that form of Love in which when the lovers are together they are afraid of being separated; and when they are not together they have a painful longing for union." [quoted in S. Radhakrishnan Introduction-Principal Upanishads Regards, Sunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Sunder Hattangadi <sunderh wrote: "Bhakti is that form of Love in which when the lovers are together they are afraid of being separated; and when they are not together they have a painful longing for union." [quoted in S. Radhakrishnan Introduction-Principal Upanishads] Dear divine souls, I am Pardha Saradhi, a new member to this group (Age - 21, working in France). Being a spiritual aspirant, I feel blessed to be among the elders. I was fortunate enough to listen to the valuable ideas of all of you from the past 10 days. I just had a small doubt regarding the above statement. Hope you would clarify: Considering Bhakti as love between the devotee and the Paramatma, where from the grief of separation arise? Since, Paramatma is formless, all-pervading and eternal, a devotee can never be separated from God. Here contemplating God itself means being in the company of God. Isn't it so? Being ever in the contemplation of God irespective of outward happenings, the Bhakta should be immersed in bliss never being afflicted by any pain or grief. So, how can there be any disappointment or separation in true Bhakti ? Many Thanks for clarifying, Regards, Pardha Saradhi Note from the List Moderators: Welcome to the list and we are looking forward to your active participation in the list discussions with your thoughtful insights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Dear ParthasArathi, >Hope you would clarify: Considering Bhakti as love between the devotee and >the Paramatma, where from the grief of separation arise? Love comes in three forms. The "love" for those "below" you is called "vAtsalya". Ex: Your children The "love" for those "equal with" you is "preeti" Ex: Your wife / husband The "love" for those "superior to" you is called "bhakti" Ex: Your Teachers Thus, the more one knows about the "superiority" of the other person, the more genuine "bhakti" or reverence he will have towards that person. Thus "bhakti" is inclusive of "jnAna" always. Any other type of bhakti is termed as "mooDa bhakti" or bhakti coming from blind faith. The "bhakti" or love that evolves between the devotee and paramAtman, evolves as the devotee's knowledge of paramAtman evolves. The starting point for this kind of bhakti could be from anywhere : blind-faith, curiosity about God, fear of God, helplessness, greed, and so on. The "grief of seperation" arises when one has bhakti of this kind. The first thing that shAstra teaches is that you "exist and operate" because of paramAtman that is indwelling in you. So, where is the question of seperation? I hope your question got answered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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