Guest guest Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 Namasthe,I have a question .yes, i have read of self merging undistinguishably into parabrahman like a sugar doll melts in an ocean and the whole things gets to be called finally an ocean alone !!!.This example is given to demonstrate aham brahmAsmi.i have always wondered ....and for a long time.The line 'aham brahmAsmi 'still has the aham part in it.why is the state of advaithic experience (to an absolutism) described as aham brahmAsmi state ?to make myself clearer let me say this:i hear of a state where people realise and feel 'aham brahma asmi',..why was the advaithic experience of being THE BRAHMA( i visulaise it based on the previous eg) not just stated ,as felt by the realised ones as "brahma!" alone?for being one with brahma is what they feel ..so where is the aham in the line at all?why is there the aham kara in the line aham brahma asmi?does not the line aham brahma asmi still seem to draw a line between aham and brahma?The atma shataka also says 'shivoham shivoham..same question with this tooI start to think does the advaithic realisation include this aham kara ?( if what we feel in realisation is 'aham brahma asmi or shivoham'.)why was shivoham chosen by acharya Shankara with the aham in it?please clarifyregardsRamya Koppa The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 Namaste Ramyaji. The mahavakya is that way because it is meant to convey a message to us who still suffer from aham. Sankara and other realized ones would not require even the word brahma because they already knew that they were talking about Silence where language fears to tread. This would apply to you, me and all of us when we 'realize'. Besides, the mahavakya does not concern a 'state'. All 'states' are definable. The Truth is statelessness as it is spacelessness, fullness, timelessness etc. This is my understanding. PranAms. Madathil Nair _____________________ advaitin, Ramya Koppa <ramya_s_koppa> wrote: I have a question .yes, i have read of self merging undistinguishably into parabrahman like a sugar doll melts in an ocean and the whole things gets to be called finally an ocean alone !!!.This example is given to demonstrate aham brahmAsmi.i have always wondered ....and for a long time.The line 'aham brahmAsmi 'still has the aham part in it.why is the state of advaithic experience (to an absolutism) described as aham brahmAsmi state ?....................................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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