Guest guest Posted May 7, 2003 Report Share Posted May 7, 2003 --- Tony O'Clery <aoclery wrote: > Namaste, > > Sutras, shastras, puranas etc are just tools to help realise what we > are searching for is where we are. Concentration that's all. Tony you are right in one sense. pramaaNa means a valid means of knowledge. If someone says this is true - immediate question is how do you know. Hence how or by what or by means of what - becomes a necessory tool for knowledge. If someone says 'I can see, therefore it is true'. If I see a snake then 'it is a snake' is the truth but if that conclusion is contradicted by our next experience then we need to resolve that too - a snake that I concluded before is not really a snake since I have a better means (pramaaNa) to establish the truth of the object. If the enquiry is of the nature of the subject of the inquirer himself, then we cannot use any pramaaNa that is of the type that rests on objective analysis since they belong to the category of anaatma. Hence scripture using the words in such a way that reveals by implication the underlying truth becomes only pramaaNa. Hence here Scripture is not just any tool as we are familiar in the objective world but that which uses the words by implication reveals the truth that cannot otherwise be revealed. That is evident in the very statement 'tat tvam asi' you are that. A literary meaning may be absurd but by implication and inquiry with proper frame of mind and the teacher to support, the truth gets resolved - like 'this is that john' - since by simple perception this john at time 't' and place 'p' looks completely different from that john at time t' and place p'. The words reveal the truth provided the student and the teacher know this john and that john to some extent. Then only the teacher's words become a pramaaNa or means of establishing that this bald ugly lookng john is indeed the same as that cute litle boy, john. The knowledge that this john and that john is immedite (not mediate)- all I need is faith in the teacher's word. I donot not have to sit down and pray that this john is the same as the john nor I have to meditate on the statement that 'this john is the same as that john'. I should have faith in the words of the teacher and the scriptures. That is called shraddha. All other means are only for purification of the mind including meditation. The mahavaakya-s provide the essential truth - the rest is to establish the proper frame of the mind for the seeker to see the truth of the statement of the scriptures. Hari OM! Sadananda ===== What you have is His gift to you and what you do with what you have is your gift to Him - Swami Chinmayananda. The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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