Guest guest Posted May 9, 2003 Report Share Posted May 9, 2003 Namaste, I AM - THE FIRST NAME OF GOD David Godman ..................................... So far as I am aware, only one Christian group has given pride of place to Jesus' revelation that He is 'I am', and that is a modern twentieth century organization, 'The Infinite Way', which was founded by the Christian mystic Joel Goldsmith. After many years in the Christian Science movement, the inner 'I' revealed itself to him. By abiding in it he came to realise that this inner 'I' was God Himself. This gave him new insights into the nature of Christ's teachings, particularly those that were revealed in the Gospel of John. He eventually started his own group, teaching all who came to him that God is within, shining as the 'I'. More than twenty books appeared under his name, most of them being edited collections of his teachings. I have selected a few of his statements on the nature of God as 'I' or 'I am' and given them below. All of them have been taken from The Mystical 'I', a book that relates the author's own experience of 'I am' and also gives his explanations of the 'I am' statements that appear in John's Gospel. Readers will note that his exegesis of the biblical texts is very similar to my own, and that his teachings on the nature of 'I' and the means by which it can be experienced are very similar to those propounded by Ramana Maharshi: 'I stand at the door and knock.' Who is this 'I' standing at the door? And at what door is this 'I' standing? At what door but the door of your consciousness? 'I' stand at the door of your consciousness and knock, but you must open the door and admit Me, for 'I am the bread of life … I am the way, the truth and the life … I am the resurrection and the life … I am come that you might have life, and that you might have it more abundantly.' The 'I' that is standing at the door of your consciousness and knocking is the 'I' that has come that you might have life more abundant. When you admit that I' into your consciousness, you have admitted life eternal: the bread of life, the water of life, and the wine of life. You have admitted into your consciousness the power of resurrection … Close your eyes and within yourself, silently, sacredly, secretly and gently say the word 'I, I'. That 'I' in the midst of you is mighty. That 'I' in the midst of you is greater than any problem in the outside world. That 'I' in the midst of you is come that you might have life and have it more abundantly. That 'I' has been with you since 'before Abraham was', waiting your recognition and your acknowledgement. 'Know ye not ye are the temple of God? Know ye not that the name of God is 'I' or 'I am', and that you are the temple of God only when you have admitted 'I' into your consciousness and held it there secretly, sacredly, gently, peaceably, so that at any moment you can close your eyes and just remember 'I'? … When Jesus speaks of the Father within and when Paul speaks of the Christ that dwells in him they are speaking of the I AM, the very 'I' that you are, the 'I' that you have just announced, that is in the midst of you. It may take a month or a year, or ten years before you can break the crust of personal sense and finally hear that still small voice within yourself, but when you do it says to you, 'Be still and know that I am God'. It does not say that Joel or Mary is God. No, no! It does not say that William or Robert is God, or Mildred. It always says 'I'. And do you know what else it says? 'Fear not for I am with thee … I will never leave thee nor forsake thee.' Fear not. Though your sins be scarlet, in the moment of your recognition of 'I' in the midst of you, you are white as snow. To be sure that no one misses the way, we caution our students never to say, even to themselves, 'I am God'. It is not even wise to voice such a statement as 'I am the son of God'. The ideal way is just to say 'I'. And think what It means. Then in time, as the listening ear is developed, you will hear the voice say, '''I'' in the midst of you am God. ''I'' who am closer to you than breathing am God.' When you hear this, you have made contact with your source. The unveiled truth in every age has always been the revelation that 'I' am He: there is no other. There is only one Ego, only one Selfhood, the AM THAT I AM, that 'I' in the midst of us, the divine Selfhood of you and me. Abide in the word 'I'. Let this 'I' abide in you and recognise its identity. Never let anyone veil It for you again. Keep it sacred and secret. The minute you have an image of God in your thought, you are personalizing, and you are expecting that concept to be God, and a concept cannot be God. Only 'I' can be God, and you cannot have a mental image of 'I'. That is the one word that defies description. Try as you will, you cannot make a mental image of 'I'. Whether you say that God is Omniscience, Omnipotence and Omnipresence, or that Jesus is Omniscience, Omnipotence and Omnipresence, really makes no difference, because in either case you have set up God and Jesus as separate and apart from the Self which you are, the 'I' which you are. When, however, you bring it all down to 'I and the Father are one', and know that 'I' is Omniscience, Omnipotence and Omnipresence, in the oneness you are infinite in being. In this oneness the 'I' of you is immortality. One of the most important statements in the New Testament is the passage, 'I am the way'. The incorrect interpretation of these few words has kept the world in spiritual darkness for seventeen hundred years … Rightly interpreted, the words 'I am the way', mean what they say. The way, the truth and the life more abundant are to be found in 'I', the 'I' that I am, the 'I' that you are, for you have been told that you and your father are one … It is in his word 'I' that you find the entire secret of the spiritual message given to the world by Christ Jesus. God is not a person … God is not localized as the mind of some one person: God is being. But God is infinite being; therefore God must be your being and my being. That is why we can accept 'I' as the name of God because I have the name 'I' and you have the name 'I'. Each of us is 'I' … Each one of us is 'I' and God is that infinite 'I' in us. When you know the secret of 'I', you abide in stillness and let 'I' do its work; not you - 'I', that 'I' that is in the midst of you. You need no thoughts, since you cannot and need not enlighten God. ............................................................. www.davidgodman.org ONS....Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2003 Report Share Posted May 9, 2003 Tony - that is catch 22 situation. If one knows that Guru is within, half the problem is solved. Second half of the problem is to recognize that there is neither guru nor sishya. But to be even in the first state of the problem - one needs a proper frame of mind. It is not the same medicine for all. Inappropriate medicine at inapproiate time can kill the patient completely. Hari OM! Sadananda ===== What you have is His gift to you and what you do with what you have is your gift to Him - Swami Chinmayananda. The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2003 Report Share Posted May 9, 2003 advaitin, kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada> wrote: > Tony - that is catch 22 situation. If one knows that Guru is within, > half the problem is solved. Second half of the problem is to recognize > that there is neither guru nor sishya. > > But to be even in the first state of the problem - one needs a proper > frame of mind. It is not the same medicine for all. Inappropriate > medicine at inapproiate time can kill the patient completely. > > Hari OM! > Sadananda Namaste S, Yes but one has to really 'Know'/Vidya, that the Guru is within. That is the point you seem to be making. For those at different stages a human form Guru may be necessary on the 'Outer'. I went through that experience myself, and even though the Guru was not 'True', good things can be learned from bad Gurus, because good things come from a universal truth. However if one concentrates on the feeling of I, or 'Who am I?' one will make progress anyway........ONS...Tony.IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2003 Report Share Posted May 9, 2003 --- Tony O'Clery <aoclery wrote: > > However if one concentrates on the feeling of I, or 'Who am I?' one > will make progress anyway........ONS...Tony.IMO > Tony that is not true either. If one is not blessed with proper understanding 'who am I', it becomes only a japa with no meaning. Who am I? is an inquiry. As a matter of fact I will be giving a spiritual camp on Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi's text 'Upadesha Saara' during the Memorial Weekend at Chinmaya Mission, Washington - where I will be discussing exactly the teaching of Bhagavan and what exactly involved in the 'who am I' inquiry. Hari OM! Sadananda ===== What you have is His gift to you and what you do with what you have is your gift to Him - Swami Chinmayananda. The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2003 Report Share Posted May 9, 2003 advaitin, kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada> wrote: > > --- Tony O'Clery <aoclery> wrote: > > > > > However if one concentrates on the feeling of I, or 'Who am I?' one > > will make progress anyway........ONS...Tony.IMO > > > > Tony that is not true either. If one is not blessed with proper > understanding 'who am I', it becomes only a japa with no meaning. Who > am I? is an inquiry. > > As a matter of fact I will be giving a spiritual camp on Bhagavan > Ramana Maharshi's text 'Upadesha Saara' during the Memorial Weekend at > Chinmaya Mission, Washington - where I will be discussing exactly the > teaching of Bhagavan and what exactly involved in the 'who am I' > inquiry. > > Hari OM! > Sadananda Namaste S, The 'I' is the feeling of the Being, not a pronoun. Some languages don't have it all. However I agree with you to a point, that one has to have a certain amount of spiritual maturity to carry this out. If one doesn't have much at then one is better with the dualistic religions, and Guru worship, for that is the level of awareness one is at...........ONS.....Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2003 Report Share Posted May 9, 2003 Note from the List Moderator: Please do not include the entire post for which you are replying. This time I have removed the unnnecessary part. Next time please include only your message! =================== Hello: Two books by Freke and Gandy, "The Jesus Mysteries" and "Jesus and the Lost Goddess", have spawned a small movement. They're based in the UK, but their books are available form the major outlets (Amazon, etc.). I read the second book (shortly after sensing the watchful and compassionate 'I'), and I must say it's very apropos to what you're saying here. As an aside, it appears that all of the major religious systems (and a host of 'smaller' ones) have at their core some form of the perennial philosophy. I'm following the Advaitin group postings because the Advaitin system(s) represent one of the first human understandings of Truth. And, Advaita Vedanta doesn't have the perennial philosophy at its core but as its entirety. Just my two cents. Peace. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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