Avatars and Jivanmuktis

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Namaste All,IMO,

 

These concepts are in illusion of course and the concept of Avatar is

quite fundamental and dvaitic.

 

As the word Avatar means to cross down, we are all technically

Avatars. A Jivanmukti is free of ego and any trace of mind. The mind

is the universal at this stage.

 

An Avatar is someone who has stopped short of Moksha so the one

thought to help will cause a rebirth.

 

I cannot appreciate the proposition that an Avatar is a descent of

Saguna Brahman.

Why would that be necessary when there are Jivanmuktis?

Saguna doesn't take birth anymore than Nirguna does. So there has to

be a vehicle and that vehicle can only be someone who hasn't taken

Moksha so to speak.

 

So logically there is a great difference between an Avatar, who has a

mind and a Jivanmukti who doesn't.

 

This is of course very dualistic as the Vaishnavas are, and Avatar is

a necessary concept for pure Bhaktas, especially the type as

Vaishnavas..........ONS.......Tony.