A Note on Nonduality - Benjaminji

[Guest guest]

Greetings,

Very nice pick up on my own discomfort with the "vision". What was

hard to say with words was indicated by your analysis. That is there

was a time when even sensing the unity the sense of self witnessing

the unity remained, but there was a point when all such distinctions

faded and there was a sense of not witnessing but I can only call it

belonging, being there.

 

The closest I can come to describing it was that it was holographic,

that is the "part" reflecting the "whole" and the awareness relecting

the whole included the part. So there was just awareness and as the

distinctions returned there was a kind of imprint of the event which

stayed as a kind of memory trace.

 

In the Advaita Bodha Deepika there is a point in which sensing

disappears and "knowing" takes it place. The "sensing" belongs to the

intellect and creates it, but the "knowing" just is.

 

As Shakespeare wrote, "Words, full of sound and fury, signifying

nothing!"

 

I suspect that had "liberation" been the state there would not have

been such a vision. So yes, there is still an element of duality in

such a vision -- but perhaps it is a glimpse.

 

Namaste!

lotusaware

 

advaitin, Benjamin Root <orion777ben>

wrote:

> However, the aim of nonduality is not a philosophical theory but a

> vision of reality as Pure Consciousness or as Brahman not distinct

> from Self or Atman. I believe that this vision can be

approximated,

> even if traces of a belief in an objective world remain in our

> thought processes.

[Guest guest]

At 12:18 AM 5/24/2003 +0000, lotusaware wrote:

 

>I suspect that had "liberation" been the state there would not have

>been such a vision. So yes, there is still an element of duality in

>such a vision -- but perhaps it is a glimpse.

 

Yes, if it is a vision, then because it came and went, by definition it was not

liberation. But a glance, a coming-and-going thing. A pointer, a free sample!

 

--Greg