Guest guest Posted May 24, 2003 Report Share Posted May 24, 2003 Namaste All, One question I have re: people who are deemed to be Jivanmuktis; Is why do they go into separate Samadhi. Surely that wouldn't be necessary if they are in Moksha. For why the movement of the consciousness? I can sort of understand sleep, for the body itself needs to be renergised, and that would be an example, I suppose. I know only one jivanmukti can recognise another.......ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2003 Report Share Posted May 25, 2003 advaitin, "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery> wrote: > Namaste All, > > One question I have re: people who are deemed to be Jivanmuktis; Is > why do they go into separate Samadhi. Surely that wouldn't be > necessary if they are in Moksha. For why the movement of the > consciousness? I can sort of understand sleep, for the body itself > needs to be renergised, and that would be an example, I suppose. > I know only one jivanmukti can recognise another.......ONS...Tony. hi tony, obviously my silly guess is irrelevant: samadhi is not separate at one point the waves that all life around him represents are unified in one flow he is not supposed to control his body manifestation, remember? if you question him your voice has the same quality as the angle of the sun at this moment of the day should he answer to you, or to the sun? in joy eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2003 Report Share Posted May 25, 2003 advaitin, "breathe now" <peaceisit@a...> wrote: > > hi tony, > obviously my silly guess is irrelevant: > samadhi is not separate > at one point the waves that all life around him represents > are unified in one flow > he is not supposed to control his body manifestation, remember? > if you question him your voice has the same quality as the angle of > the sun at this moment of the day > should he answer to you, or to the sun? > in joy > eric This reminded me of: 43. As the sweetness, the flowing, and the coldness, that are the characteristics of the water, reappear in the wave, and so in the foam that crests the wave; 44. So, verily, the Being, Consciousness, and Bliss of the witnessing Self enter into the habitual self that is bound up with it; and, by the door of the habitual self, enter into the imaginary self also. 45. But when the foam melts away, its flowing, sweetness, coldness, all sink back into the wave; and when the wave itself comes to rest, they sink back to the sea. 46. When the imaginary self melts away, its Being, Consciousness, Bliss sink back into the habitual self; and, when the habitual self comes to rest, they return to the Self supreme, the witness of all. - Vakya Sudda of Shankara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2003 Report Share Posted May 25, 2003 advaitin, "breathe now" <peaceisit@a...> wrote: > advaitin, "Tony O'Clery" <aoclery> wrote: > > Namaste All, > > > > One question I have re: people who are deemed to be Jivanmuktis; Is > > why do they go into separate Samadhi. Surely that wouldn't be > > necessary if they are in Moksha. For why the movement of the > > consciousness? I can sort of understand sleep, for the body itself > > needs to be renergised, and that would be an example, I suppose. > > I know only one jivanmukti can recognise another.......ONS...Tony. > > hi tony, > obviously my silly guess is irrelevant: > samadhi is not separate > at one point the waves that all life around him represents > are unified in one flow > he is not supposed to control his body manifestation, remember? > if you question him your voice has the same quality as the angle of > the sun at this moment of the day > should he answer to you, or to the sun? > in joy > eric Namaste Eric, Yeah I agree with what you have said about Samadhi. I just wondered why a Jivanmukti would need to go into obvious withdrawal meditation when I thought they were in it all the time, in all states of consciousness....Why do they even need to sleep?.....ONS....Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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