Guest guest Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 It is simple - Freedom of choice is there until freedom from choice is recognized. Hari OM! Sadananda ===== What you have is His gift to you and what you do with what you have is your gift to Him - Swami Chinmayananda. Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. http://calendar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 advaitin, kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada> wrote: > It is simple - > > Freedom of choice is there until freedom from choice is recognized. > > Hari OM! > Sadananda Namaste S,IMO. Freedom of choice is an illusion. All is karmically programmed. Only there is the illusion that we are making a choice. It is only a mental thing to work with karma and responsibility. The choice you make is always the choice you were going to make, for there is no time. In illusion whether there is any choice at all, even in the lokas, is a question also............ONS....Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 advaitin, kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada> wrote: > > Freedom of choice is there until freedom from choice is recognized. > Perfect, Sir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 > > Namaste S,IMO. > > Freedom of choice is an illusion. Tony you have to be very careful from what ref. you are making that statement. If I know that is is illusion the problem is already solved. The problem is there along as I take the illusion as real. there lies the problem! >All is karmically programmed. This statement is again contradiction to the understanding that it is illusion. Evern the karmially programed is also notional within the illusion. one has tobe very careful from what ref. the statements are made. >Only > there is the illusion that we are making a choice. It is only a > mental thing to work with karma and responsibility. The choice you > make is always the choice you were going to make, for there is no > time. Sir - There is misunderstanding of the illusion and reality. There has been the problme in discussing vyavahaara and paaramaarthika all along. > > In illusion whether there is any choice at all, even in the lokas, is > a question also............ONS....Tony. Yes sir, in the illusion there are illusory choices. In reality the illusion and the illusory choices all resolve to one undifferentiated reality that you are. Hari OM! Sadananda > > > > ===== What you have is His gift to you and what you do with what you have is your gift to Him - Swami Chinmayananda. Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. http://calendar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2003 Report Share Posted May 30, 2003 advaitin, kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada> wrote: Namaste S, Yes I sometimes mix my apples and oranges, relatives and absolutes. Only 'God' has freewill ultimately......ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2003 Report Share Posted May 31, 2003 --- Tony O'Clery <aoclery wrote: > advaitin, kuntimaddi sadananda > <kuntimaddisada> wrote: > > Namaste S, > > Yes I sometimes mix my apples and oranges, relatives and absolutes. > Only 'God' has freewill ultimately......ONS...Tony. > Tony I appreciete your simple honesty! Great guy! It is my pleasure to be associated with gems like you. But could not resist from making the statement - even the 'God' has freewill is also notional since the very existence of God is brought in to account the illusory creation which is taken as real. Hence real god with free will exists as long as the illusory world is recognized as real - it is not? Hari OM! Sadananda ===== What you have is His gift to you and what you do with what you have is your gift to Him - Swami Chinmayananda. Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. http://calendar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2003 Report Share Posted May 31, 2003 advaitin, kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada> wrote: > > --- Tony O'Clery <aoclery> wrote: > > advaitin, kuntimaddi sadananda > > <kuntimaddisada> wrote: > > > > Namaste S, > > > > Yes I sometimes mix my apples and oranges, relatives and absolutes. > > Only 'God' has freewill ultimately......ONS...Tony. > > > > Tony I appreciete your simple honesty! Great guy! It is my pleasure to > be associated with gems like you. > But could not resist from making the statement - even the 'God' has > freewill is also notional since the very existence of God is brought in > to account the illusory creation which is taken as real. Hence real god > with free will exists as long as the illusory world is recognized as > real - it is not? > > Hari OM! > Sadananda Namaste S, Yes that's why I put 'God' in parenthesis for that is Isvara/Saguna not Nirguna.........I really follow the theory that it all never happened at all........ONS....Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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