Guest guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 Namaste! ombhurbhuva : >You appear to be a little sore because your cake had knives >plunged in it which did not emerge clean. Remedy - put it >back in the oven for a little more baking. I am naughty. >Idealism is a perfectly respectable position. Haven't been here is a while ... busy doing my favorite pastime: reading inspirational literature from the East. I wasn't sore; I was just starting to feel that philosophical speculation was indeed off-topic. Most members do seem to be young Indian students who want a traditional interpretation of Advaita. Also, Hindus do seem a bit conservative to me, and I was worried that provocative remarks might offend them. In the USA, we are more brash and open, which has its good and bad points... Anyhow, in your case, my main gripe is that I can't always understand your impressionistic remarks. I think you must be some kind of poet! ;-) Paraig Gillane >There are some in the silent majority that found the >discussions interesting and stimulating, I will miss >your contributions. Well, if Greg wants to discuss idealism, I will chime in from time to time. But not in the profligate way I did before. It got embarrassing seeing my name so often on the list. It seemed more egoistic than Advaitin. But as Dennis suggested, a break for a month wouldn't hurt either. Om! Benjamin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2003 Report Share Posted June 9, 2003 Namaste, No thanks Benjamin-ji, I don't wish to discuss idealism or anything else in my own. Actually, the idea for a topic of the month was partly an outgrowth of the intense energy you had put into several ideas. If you are going to be posting in a more subdued way, then I think it will lack the energy to make a topic fly. If the intensity picks up on that area, then I'll surely find something controversial and interesting to talk about! Like why consciousness would be the kind of thing there can be two or more of! Harih Om! --Greg At 09:41 PM 6/8/2003 -0400, Benjamin Root wrote: >Namaste! > >ombhurbhuva : >>You appear to be a little sore because your cake had knives >>plunged in it which did not emerge clean. Remedy - put it >>back in the oven for a little more baking. I am naughty. >>Idealism is a perfectly respectable position. > >Haven't been here is a while ... busy doing my favorite pastime: >reading inspirational literature from the East. I wasn't sore; I was >just starting to feel that philosophical speculation was indeed >off-topic. Most members do seem to be young Indian students who want >a traditional interpretation of Advaita. Also, Hindus do seem a bit >conservative to me, and I was worried that provocative remarks might >offend them. In the USA, we are more brash and open, which has its >good and bad points... > >Anyhow, in your case, my main gripe is that I can't always understand >your impressionistic remarks. I think you must be some kind of poet! >;-) > > >Paraig Gillane >>There are some in the silent majority that found the >>discussions interesting and stimulating, I will miss >>your contributions. > >Well, if Greg wants to discuss idealism, I will chime in from time to >time. But not in the profligate way I did before. It got >embarrassing seeing my name so often on the list. It seemed more >egoistic than Advaitin. > >But as Dennis suggested, a break for a month wouldn't hurt either. > >Om! >Benjamin > > Sponsor ><http://rd./M=251812.3170658.4537139.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705075991:\ HM/A=1564416/R=0/SIG=11ti81skc/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60164797&par\ tid=3170658>59f5321.jpg >59f61d7.jpg > >Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of Atman and Brahman. >Advaitin List Archives available at: <http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/>http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaiti\ n/ >To Post a message send an email to : advaitin >Messages Archived at: <advaitin/messages>a\ dvaitin/messages > > > >Your use of is subject to the <> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2003 Report Share Posted June 10, 2003 Namaste: Our vacation in India though for a short duration was quite enjoyable. I had visited the Sri Meenakshi Temple in Madurai and had great darshan of the Devi. As a part of Smartha customary, we also visited our 'Kuladeivam - Family God (Ishtadevata)' temple located at Mandurai,(a village close to Lalgudi in Thiruchi). This is a Shiva temple (Ambreneshwarar) and the Devi's name is Valambal. Every village temple maintains a special story describing the significance of that deity and this story is known as 'Stalapurana - a historical account for the evolution of the temple.' During our visit to the temple, there were none present, other than our family members and the temple priest. Our worship of the Lord and the pujas and prayers had the effect of bringing peace and purity to our minds. The rest of our vacation was spent visiting our dear friends and relatives. I wonder that the heat wave that we experinced during our stay in India (temperature fluctuated between 40 to 48 degrees centigrade) could have been possible generated by the warmth of the hearts of the people. Let me now turn my attention regarding the June topic. Originally, we planned for a discussion initiated by Jay Neelamangala and moderated by Sri Sadanandaji. Fortunately, the moderators of the list have opted not to have this discussion because this will be big diversion to our focus and also such discussions have high potentials for bringing more confusion than conclusions. I have been reading the ongoing discussions in the Advaita-L list and I honestly believe that the decision of the board of moderators was quite correct and timely. The discussions in the Advaita-L list so far did not indicate any 'smoking gun.' Most of the materials posted in these discussions are available in books and/or in the Web pages. It is very unlikely that there will be any new resolution at the end of these discussions. These are just my impression and others may come up with a different conclusion with good reason. I strongly recommend everyone in the list to read these discussions which can certainly improve our understanding of advaita philosophy. Here is the URL of the archive which contains most of the discussions: http://lists.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/public/advaita-l/2003- June/date.html (due to the length of this site address, just clicking the site address may not work and you may have to cut and paste to get to the site) I agree with Gregji and let us conduct our discussions with an 'open mind' and our focus should to keep the mind open without any preconceived notions! Warmest regards, Ram Chandran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2003 Report Share Posted June 10, 2003 On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, Ram Chandran wrote: > Namaste: > > [...] > I have been reading the > ongoing discussions in the Advaita-L list and I honestly believe that > the decision of the board of moderators was quite correct and timely. > The discussions in the Advaita-L list so far did not indicate > any 'smoking gun.' Most of the materials posted in these discussions > are available in books and/or in the Web pages. It is very unlikely > that there will be any new resolution at the end of these > discussions. These are just my impression and others may come up with > a different conclusion with good reason. > > [...] > Warmest regards, > > Ram Chandran > namaste shri Ram Chandran-ji, Welcome back to the List. It is nice to see that you are spiritually energized with your visit to the karma-(puNya)- bhUmi. I have read the first few posts in that discussion on adhyAsa and causal body going on on advaita-L. I gave up further reading. In my personal opinion, and this is my personal opinion only, (and I have the highest respect for the participants of that discussion), I cannot see the usefulness of such a discussion. It does not improve the intellectual knowledge; and certainly it does not provide a contemplative environment for spiritually elevating ourselves. But, this is my view only and others may feel otherwise. I think the purpose of any List (with a theme such as ours) should be spiritual elevation. You had posed a question in December 2002 "Are we spiritually growing ?". It may be, in addition to the question "Are we spiritually growing ?", an associated question can also be "Are the List discussions providing a proper impetus for spiritual growth ?" It may be useful if the List members express themselves on your original question and the associated question. Regards Gummuluru Murthy ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2003 Report Share Posted June 10, 2003 Namaste Gummuluruji: I do also feel the same way like you regarding the ongoing discussions on adhyasa and other related subject matter. Mostly the discussants seem to establish their scholorships on the subject area and keep their discussions within a confined subjective framework. Your suggestion that we should focus our attention on spiritual elevation is quite timely. We should focus and direct discussions to provide the proper impetus for spiritual growth. It seems that this is a great topic for this month. The question, "Are we spiritually growing?" often arises to the spiritual seeker. Here are my thoughts on the above and other related questions: What are the ingredients for spiritual growth? How do we judge whether we spiritually grow? What types of list discussions can help up grow spiritually? What lessons that we can learn from Gita for spiritual growth? What can we learn from role models of scriptures on spiritual growth? How to conduct discussions to cultivate spiritual growth? Let us hope that other members also take sometime and contemplate on the above theme and share their thoughts. Our contemplation will hopefully direct us with the right focus and help us to pay more attention to the important question: "Are we spiritually growing?" Warmest regards, Ram Chandran advaitin, Gummuluru Murthy <gmurthy@m...> wrote: > > .... > I think the purpose of any List (with a theme such as ours) > should be spiritual elevation. You had posed a question in > December 2002 "Are we spiritually growing ?". It may be, > in addition to the question "Are we spiritually growing ?", > an associated question can also be "Are the List discussions > providing a proper impetus for spiritual growth ?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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