Guest guest Posted June 14, 2003 Report Share Posted June 14, 2003 Namaste Tony! >The planet earth is reflected on the lower astrals. >When people 'die', they go to that plane and meet >family and people of like mind. They then draw on >their subconscious and create a common world of houses >streets etc etc, just like here in many cases. This >indicates that all manifestation is a common dream >whether gross or subtle. They even go fishing together, >creating dream fish, which they think are real etc etc. >It is all a matter of degree, this dream this unrealitly >.........ONS...Tony. I actually agree with every word here! I have read a great deal on Near Death Experiences and the like on the web. I try to sort out the bogus from the credible. In the end, I have formed opinions just like what you say here. These opinions are also consistent with philosophical ideas regarding consciousness, karma and so forth. Indeed, I believe that Moksha is not some eternal escape from color and form but rather learning to live appropriately with the illusion of color and form, without attachment or sense of identity and doership. The illusion then becomes the beautiful Lila of the Divine Consciousness. It is already this for those who can see it. As our consciousness becomes purified over successive lifetimes, the colors and forms (i.e. 'worlds') become more beautiful and peaceful, as they reflect our state of mind. For example, I think that the reason this world has carnivores is because it is a 'mid-level' world, where sattva is combined with tamas. It is neither heaven nor hell. (Well, for some people it is sometimes hell.) Om! Benjamin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2003 Report Share Posted June 15, 2003 advaitin, Benjamin Root <orion777ben> wrote: > > Namaste Tony! > > >The planet earth is reflected on the lower astrals. > > > I actually agree with every word here! I have read a great deal on > Near Death Experiences and the like on the web. I try to sort out > the bogus from the credible. In the end, I have formed opinions just > like what you say here. These opinions are also consistent with > philosophical ideas regarding consciousness, karma and so forth. > > Indeed, I believe that Moksha is not some eternal escape from color > and form but rather learning to live appropriately with the illusion > of color and form, without attachment or sense of identity and > doership. The illusion then becomes the beautiful Lila of the Divine > Consciousness. It is already this for those who can see it. As our > consciousness becomes purified over successive lifetimes, the colors > and forms (i.e. 'worlds') become more beautiful and peaceful, as they > reflect our state of mind. For example, I think that the reason this > world has carnivores is because it is a 'mid-level' world, where > sattva is combined with tamas. It is neither heaven nor hell. > (Well, for some people it is sometimes hell.) > > Om! Namaste Benji, Yes it is all all a leela whilst in the body, when the body is dropped for the jivanmukta it disappears as never happening. Yes this plane is one of the lower hell planes, especially for humans who have more discrimination than animals and so suffer more mentally.........ONS...Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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