Guest guest Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 Namaste Maybe I won't have to write that massive treatise after all. Sri VPCNK just provided the essence of Indian philosophy! Case closed. :-) >That's the reason that chitta vritti nirodah - the cessation >of mental modifications - is the essence of all Indian philsophies. By the way, that treatise (if it happens) will be totally free on the web. I think it is abhorent to make any money whatsoever off of spiritual writing. One must keep another job to maintain the body and lifestyle. Om! Benjamin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 My dear noble devotee of Sri Samkara Bhagavatpujyapada, Heartiest congratulations for your massive selection!!! My humble salutations to you for your ambitious project in advance. The world is more divided in the name of religion and civilization than in the name of anything else (hyperbole?)and your work will go a long way in bringing people together. Right now, one of our noble devotees wants to know about the experiencer of the three states of wakefulness,dream and deep sleep states AS explained in the introductory verses of Vedantha Panch Dasi.I think you are the right person to do so. I am really hard pressed for time.I have to prepare the handout for a workshop in the Leeds university on CONTRAST IN TELUGU AND ENGLISH (PROVERBS AND LANGUAGES):RETHINKING SYSTEMIC THEORY AS KARMIK THEORY.I have also not yet got sponsorship.So could you please help him as the book is not with me right now. If I get I will do it in my own humble way. Thank you very much for your kindness. May the blessings of Sri Samkara Bhagavatpujyapada be with you! Yours in Sri Samkara Bhagavapujyapada's love, Chilukuri Bhuvaneswar On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 Benjamin Root wrote : > >Namaste, > >This message may seem unnecessary, but I am making it public to >avoid >giving a bad impression to list members later on regarding my >role in >the tentative new list of 'Advaitin Highlights'. > >I recently proposed such a list, and clearly Sri Ram has been >encouraging me to 'volunteer' to moderate it. Also, others >have >encouraged me to improve my spiritual life by volunteering some >selfless service to the cause of Advaita. This is a very noble >sentiment, and if I am unable to fulfill this responsibility, >then I >would like to make it clear to the list members that I have >some >reasons and am not just a selfish person who likes to talk but >doesn't like to work. Hence, I am broadcasting this message >publicly >instead of just discussing it privately with Sri Ram (which I >will >also do). > >I am not sure exactly what tasks are entailed in moderating this >new >list. It all depends on my free clock time, of which I have a >very >short supply. Please understand that I have set myself an >ambitious >(and possibly egoistic) life task of digesting a huge amount of >literature from all spiritual paths that interest me, and they >are >many. I have accumulated over 1 GB of text files on religion >(mostly >Indian) and hundreds of megabytes on philosophy. Furthermore, I >have >a large library of books at home on these topics. Even though I >am >unmarried, I still find myself spending almost all my free time >studying this mass of information, and it seems I am always >behind. >Later, after I retire in the not too distant future, I intend >to >write several massive (or perhaps not so massive) treatises on >a >grand synthesis of this information and the underlying essence of >all >traditions based on mysticism, realization, enlightenment or >whatever >you want to call it. I am full of ideas, however naive they >might be. > >So I am busy! That is why I have contributed so enthusiastically >to >this list. It is great preparation. I believe that my writing >style >has improved, and above all I have learned to deal with >opposing >views, which is not always so easy. And now you can see why I >was so >determined to compare Advaita and Buddhism. I am seeking the >holy >grail of the underlying essence, which must be the One Truth! >(At >least, according to my way of thinking, for what that is >worth.) > >If managing the new list requires many tedious and >time-consuming >tasks, then I must respectfully decline. We will see, and I >will >discuss it with Sri Ram. If I do decline, I hope that those >list >members who have even bothered to notice will not think ill of >me, >considering that I have found another way to devote my life to >service, however self-serving that may seem. Who is to say that >my >grand treatise may not be of spiritual benefit to some, however >vain >it may seem now? (You might argue that I must first become a >saint >before I am qualified to write this, but I am not so sure about >that. >Not being a saint may actually provide more objectivity when >comparing the different spiritual paths.) > >OK, I think I have said enough on this. An example of a task >that >would be too tedious and time-consuming would be rewriting the >messages of others to improve the English. It seems that Sri Ram >was >alluding to this at one point. I cannot do that. Besides, I >can >understand everyone on this list, and I think that Indian >versions of >English can be quite creative, colorful, enjoyable and even >provide a >certain expressivity that might otherwise be lost! I am as >liberal >with language as I am with ideas. Let us all be liberal. >Spiritual >freedom is the essence of the Indian tradition, even if it leads >to >some mistakes, from which we may learn. > >Respectfully >Benjamin > >------------------------ Sponsor > >Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of >nonseparablity of Atman and Brahman. >Advaitin List Archives available at: >http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ >To Post a message send an email to : advaitin >Messages Archived at: >advaitin/messages > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > _ Click below to experience Sooraj R Barjatya's latest offering 'Main Prem Ki Diwani Hoon' starring Hrithik, Abhishek & Kareena http://www.mpkdh.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 --- Benjamin Root <orion777ben wrote: I think it is abhorent to make any money whatsoever off of > spiritual writing. One must keep another job to maintain the body > and lifestyle. > > Om! > Benjamin Benjamin nobody makes money on spiritual writings. The market vs publications cost are enormous. Shreeman S.M.S. Chari told us that he had to pay to the publishers Rs 10,000 for each book M.B. publishers publish. They give at mose 20 copies and that all. Only advantage of getting published by a reputed publishers - they publicise the book and it gets easy distribution. If at all any money author makes will not be enough to cover for the next publication cost. We have published our father's books in Telugu literature and on VishishhTadviata but we to give them free for those who are interested since very few people would want to buy it. Then why do we publish it? Because we believe they are a great teasure for those few who really wanted in depth understanding of vedanta. In fact we have 14 volumes of my father's commentary on Vedanta Deshika's work on Rahasyatraya saara. H.H. Swami Narayana Chinna jeer has taken to publish them few years ago. Yet they still remain unpublished even though we promissed to provide the publication costs. Although money is not everything, it is needed even to put things on paper. Veanta should be free. But organization is required to propagate it. Otherwise there are enought of other organizations to suppress or even to propagate wrong understanding! Hari OM! Sadananda ===== What you have is His gift to you and what you do with what you have is your gift to Him - Swami Chinmayananda. SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 Namaste Sri Benjamin and (also potential members of his team): I am quite excited to hear this delightful news from you. I agree that it is a good idea to conduct a pre-evaluation of the proposal and its feasibility. I am happy to provide the following suggestions: The 'ndhighlights' offers daily highlights of messages posted to the Nonduality Salon and over 40 other 'nondual' lists and forums, as well as a variety of Web sites. Ndhighlights is not a discussion list but it is a news magazine containing the latest available information on the subject of nondulaity. The following issues need careful evaluation. 1. List options - discussion list or just a newsletter or a newsletter with limited discussion. 2. Frequency of highlights - daily, weekly or monthly 3. Editorial Team for the Newsletter - (Sri Benjamin with a team of volunteers) My suggestion would be to start in the beginning as a monthly highlights without allowing any discussions. Request members to provide their feedback on a regular basis and if you have time and interest, you can provide them some answers if they have any questions.. After a year you can decide about the future course of the list. The setup in is quite flexible and the characteristics of the list can be changed when needed. I believe that the choice of the editorial team for the newsletter should be fully vested with you. Since the postings come from members with a diverse background and interest, the editorial team should reflect such diversity. Let me also request other members to come forward to volunteer and help Sri Benjamin to complete his noble project with ease and peace. Warmest regards, Ram Chandran Note: I have already volunteered to help him and my offer is still open! advaitin, Benjamin Root <orion777ben> wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 praNAm prabhuji Hare Krishna Its OK prabhuji, I look at the verses as I have copy with me. But one thing what I am not clear is shruti pratipAdya Atman is witness or experiencer?? As far as my limited knowledge goes, Atman is not experiencer/cognizer etc. I'll write about it in detail with reference in my next mail tomorrow morning, as I have to rush home now, its already 9.45 PM here in India. Hari Hari Hari Bol!!! bhaskar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 Namaste! Well since this is evidently going to be a group effort, then it is indeed appropriate to discuss this publicly. I love the spirit of my venerable colleagues. I just finished saying that due to my vast project I do not have the time to do much editorial work for the new list, such as rewriting the English of others. So in response, Sri Ram congratulates me on becoming editor of the new list and assures me that others will assist me, and Sri Sadananda says he is ready to send me his 20+ page paper for my review and English correction! (This is significant work!) Either there has been some misunderstanding, or this is a voice from heaven announcing my divinely ordained destiny! Well, as I said, it all depends on our old enemy the clock. I may have some time for this but not much, and that is a choice I am free to make in my life. Such is the luxury of being an American! The thing I am most worried about is getting trapped by obligations. Therefore I am making no commitments. It is essential that the team effort be truly such that the team can continue regardless of what I have the time to contribute. It is all still quite unclear to me. What exactly am I to do? Why not simply set up a second moderated list where only contributions from a select group are allowed? That would presumably be the moderators of this list. As the moderators encounter messages worth saving in this list, they can simply forward them to the highlights list under appropriate predetermined threads. This sounds like a rather automatic process to me. The English in the current posts is fine, as I said. I can understand it; it just takes some getting used to. Om! Benjamin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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