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advaitin, bhaskar.yr@i... wrote:

>

> praNAm prabhuji

> Hare Krishna

> We can conclude that shankara's concept of para brahman & apara

brahman

> are the synonyms given to brahman according to various stages &

thoght

 

Namaste Bhaskar Hari Bol,

 

Yes this is what I was getting at, but did he ever use the term Nir

Guna? Para Brahman means above or super Brahman, which again is a

rather positive term, unlike Nir Guna/Nir Vana etc.

Obviously apples and oranges are being mixed here in verbiage. One

point I have is that many people hang on to Sat-Cit-Ananada for they

are terms and qualities the mind can appreciate. Many don't want a

Brahman that is Nir Guna for this brings up the primeval fear

of 'Personal Extinction'. So many people talk the talk but don't

really want to walk the walk. As Nisargadatta implied only 1 in 10

million can understand Advaita even intellectually. This is why

Sankara emphasised what people could understand.

IMO If one needs a positive term to appreciate the idea of Nirguna

then one is not a true advaitin. For the mind is hanging back trying

to explain the inexplicable. I doubt anything that I have said

contradicts the ultimate teachings of any Sage.

 

I write one liners off my head because that is the essence I see. I

am not trained in philosophy and don't have the vocabulary to write

reams. However I'm in good company Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa was a

virtual illiterate..............ONS...Tony.

 

Note to Tony from the List Moderators:

>From what you have stated that you have language difficulties and partly

explains the misunderstandings. We do need to recognize that different people

see the essence differently, and we can't ask everyone to accept the essence

that we see! Please note that Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa's virtual illiteracy

got fully eradicated by gaining Infinite Wisdom!!

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