Guest guest Posted August 29, 2003 Report Share Posted August 29, 2003 Revered Maharshi Veda Vyasa, It has been a long time since I have written anything for you or to you. Do you remember the time when you called me to help you write the Mahabharata? Can you recall the conversation between us thousands of years ago? You had asked me to be your steno for your epic. I remember you had said “I shall narrate the text from memory and you keep writing”. I had laid down a condition. I said to you, if while writing, my pen does not stop for even one moment, then I don’t mind being the steno for this test. And how vividly I remember your sage words in hearing this “Don’t write a word without fully understanding it. I agreed and we got down to writing that mother of all epics. Understanding. That was it. This is what is missing today. That is the reason I write to you after such a long spell of silence. People today worship me more than ever before. I am the backbone of the handicraft industry. My idols adorn drawing rooms and all sorts of other places. Many people “collect” me. I have been reduced to the status of a cuddle toy. But do people understand me? Understanding, I suppose, is not possible when people today are obsessed with one of the most reductive of human inventions: The sound bite. I wonder whether the human need to tell and to hear a complete story, has almost become extinct. When there is little understanding and still less patience to hear someone out, no wonder people don’t know who I am. They invoke my name before getting on with anything. And they are certain that their task would get done without impediments. Do they think I am some kind of fixer? People think of ends and not means. I bless only those efforts, which are guided by noble means and intentions. Moreover, I am Ganapati, or Ganesh. If you please, I am the leader and protector of the entire community, not just of self-seeking individuals. I am Gajanana. Gaja, as you know, is Brahman (they confuse these days between Brahman and the creator of the universe, Brahmaa). My elephant head therefore, signifies the ultimate non-duality of all things. Isn’t it logic also that the head should preside over the body? I have always agonized about people speculating about my only tusk, the right one. Why should they not understand that It again signifies the oneness of Brahman, only maya is dual. If only people would draw a connection between the head, the single tusk and the things I carry in my four hands, they will know better. I am here to remove ignorance, illusion and bring about peace and security. My ears are like that implement they use to remove the rice from the chaff. Need I say more? I stand for “discrimination between good and evil”. Oh God, how old fashioned I sound. Actually, as I write, I know what seems to be the problem. It is like this. Today my mouse – you know I have retained him as my steed – has become more popular than me. He represents all those things that people readily identify with: Division, hair-splitting, analysis and excessive theorizing. The mouse is the master of night, The night represents ignorance, or, rather it did during your time. Today, the mouse of ignorance bites, gnaws and steals. As long as I sat on him and people could actually see me sitting on him, I had control over him. Now they put me on their computer monitors and give pride of place to the mouse. They even give him a nice, soft pad to sit. What next? And to think of it, they don’t even enjoy the modak any longer. What represents joy, ananda, has become for them a source of cholesterol, diabetes and all such fancy lifestyle ailments. Enough of this raving and ranting. I write this also to solicit your blessings for my birthday, which falls on 31ST August this year. With salutations Yours “Ganesha” (REPRODUCED FROM THE TIMES OF INDIA (OLD ISSUE AUGUST 2001) AND IT IS BEING SENT TO ALL FRIENDS ON THE OCCASION OF VINAYAKA CHATURTHI WITH PRAYERS TO THE ALL MIGHTY, ALL KNOWING, ALL PERVASIVE VINAYAKA – ‘MOOLADHARASTITHA’ OF THE KNOWN AND UNKNOWN) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 Namaste! I was having a rather difficult day today and just by chance picked up your E-Mail about Ganesha. I truly enjoyed the format of the letter. It made me feel closer to Ganesha, and it warmed my heart. Thank you so very much. Peace and Love Always, Sarojini - "R.S.MANI" <r_s_mani <advaitin>; <iyer123> Friday, August 29, 2003 7:28 PM Ganesh Chathurthi Revered Maharshi Veda Vyasa, It has been a long time since I have written anything for you or to you. Do you remember the time when you called me to help you write the Mahabharata? Can you recall the conversation between us thousands of years ago? You had asked me to be your steno for your epic. I remember you had said "I shall narrate the text from memory and you keep writing". I had laid down a condition. I said to you, if while writing, my pen does not stop for even one moment, then I don't mind being the steno for this test. And how vividly I remember your sage words in hearing this "Don't write a word without fully understanding it. I agreed and we got down to writing that mother of all epics. Understanding. That was it. This is what is missing today. That is the reason I write to you after such a long spell of silence. People today worship me more than ever before. I am the backbone of the handicraft industry. My idols adorn drawing rooms and all sorts of other places. Many people "collect" me. I have been reduced to the status of a cuddle toy. But do people understand me? Understanding, I suppose, is not possible when people today are obsessed with one of the most reductive of human inventions: The sound bite. I wonder whether the human need to tell and to hear a complete story, has almost become extinct. When there is little understanding and still less patience to hear someone out, no wonder people don't know who I am. They invoke my name before getting on with anything. And they are certain that their task would get done without impediments. Do they think I am some kind of fixer? People think of ends and not means. I bless only those efforts, which are guided by noble means and intentions. Moreover, I am Ganapati, or Ganesh. If you please, I am the leader and protector of the entire community, not just of self-seeking individuals. I am Gajanana. Gaja, as you know, is Brahman (they confuse these days between Brahman and the creator of the universe, Brahmaa). My elephant head therefore, signifies the ultimate non-duality of all things. Isn't it logic also that the head should preside over the body? I have always agonized about people speculating about my only tusk, the right one. Why should they not understand that It again signifies the oneness of Brahman, only maya is dual. If only people would draw a connection between the head, the single tusk and the things I carry in my four hands, they will know better. I am here to remove ignorance, illusion and bring about peace and security. My ears are like that implement they use to remove the rice from the chaff. Need I say more? I stand for "discrimination between good and evil". Oh God, how old fashioned I sound. Actually, as I write, I know what seems to be the problem. It is like this. Today my mouse - you know I have retained him as my steed - has become more popular than me. He represents all those things that people readily identify with: Division, hair-splitting, analysis and excessive theorizing. The mouse is the master of night, The night represents ignorance, or, rather it did during your time. Today, the mouse of ignorance bites, gnaws and steals. As long as I sat on him and people could actually see me sitting on him, I had control over him. Now they put me on their computer monitors and give pride of place to the mouse. They even give him a nice, soft pad to sit. What next? And to think of it, they don't even enjoy the modak any longer. What represents joy, ananda, has become for them a source of cholesterol, diabetes and all such fancy lifestyle ailments. Enough of this raving and ranting. I write this also to solicit your blessings for my birthday, which falls on 31ST August this year. With salutations Yours "Ganesha" (REPRODUCED FROM THE TIMES OF INDIA (OLD ISSUE AUGUST 2001) AND IT IS BEING SENT TO ALL FRIENDS ON THE OCCASION OF VINAYAKA CHATURTHI WITH PRAYERS TO THE ALL MIGHTY, ALL KNOWING, ALL PERVASIVE VINAYAKA - 'MOOLADHARASTITHA' OF THE KNOWN AND UNKNOWN) Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of Atman and Brahman. Advaitin List Archives available at: http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ To Post a message send an email to : advaitin Messages Archived at: advaitin/messages Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2003 Report Share Posted August 30, 2003 Namaste Ganesh-ji. Let me greet you in good, true Advaitin style. I waited for 31st August (see we go by the English calendar - what can chaturti mean to us?!) to dawn in my part of the world to say "HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU". May be chaturti has ended here or is yet to begin. I don't have an Indian almanac. Can't locate the position of the Moon in relation to the stars. They can't be seen! Light pollution! Please have a great time nevertheless. If I have moved the mouse of ignorance on its comfortable pad in sending you this wish, please understand my predicament. We can't operate without it these days. I can greet you only as long as you seem apart from me. Isn't that ignorance? Or, without ignorance, where is there a need to seek out knowledge? So, please bless me with a Genius of a mouse so that I can keep wishing you without end and equip me with more and more ignorance so that I can't cease calling out to you for help. About modak, I confess, I can't have it, for I am diabetic. No cholesterol yet and I don't want to invite that calamity. However, I am a little worried about your pot-belly. Please, therefore, be moderate in your enjoyments. Incidentally, what does pot-belly signify? Is it the whole of this samSArA? Why did dad give the fruit of knowledge to the other fellow, your borther, who looks more physically fit? That is thought for you to ponder today. Lastly, please grant me a wish, Ganeshji. May Maniji, hidden behind the post under reference, have more of his inimitable sense of humour so that he can continue to plunge this forum in thoughtful laughter in the days to come. I join you and all in the joy of this great day. PraNAms to your Head of Knowledge and Single Non-dual Tusk! You look just wonderful. I remain diabetically at your Feet with the mouse of ignorance at my fingertips as you revel in the modak of Absolute Bliss. Madathil Nair __________________ advaitin, "R.S.MANI" <r_s_mani> wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 - "Madathil Rajendran Nair" <madathilnair > Namaste Ganesh-ji. Namaste, Shri Nair-ji: > equip me with more and more ignorance >so that I can't cease > calling out to you for help. Be careful what you ask for...you just might get it. > Incidentally, what does pot-belly > signify? Is it the whole of this samSArA? My pot belly, besides being what it is because I am part elephant, although an illusory one to advaitins such as yourself, signifies to some the cosmos, the universe, although also an illusion. It is this whole samSArA and then some. My belly is big because it has to be, for I govern the universe, all of the gods and goddesses, since the beginning of time and even before. Being that all of these are contained within my belly, symbolically, it is an illusion that takes up much space. >Why did dad give the fruit of knowledge to the other fellow, >your borther, who looks more physically fit? >That is thought for you to ponder today. No it is thought for YOU to ponder today. > If I have moved the mouse of ignorance on its comfortable pad in > sending you this wish, please understand my predicament. We can't > operate without it these days. I can greet you only as long as you > seem apart from me. Isn't that ignorance? Or, without ignorance, > where is there a need to seek out knowledge? Is not the Seeker the One who Is Being Sought? Ah, you have moved the mouse and dislocated me, Shri Nair-ji. But then, that is fine with me, since today is the day I must depart to symbolize the cycle of life. I had to ascend from upon the mouse, so everyone, except you, could indulge their desires for sweets in my honor. But don't worry, I will get back upon the mouse of desire, so you won't feel too badly about the limits your body, which is, after all, an illusion. > Can't locate the position of the Moon in relation to the stars. They can't be seen! Light pollution! Excuse me, Shri, that is me!!! Now, I will move myself so you can see the Moon. I have work to do. Now, repeat after me... Mooshika Vaahana madaka hastha Chaamara karna vilambitha soothra Vaamana roopa Mahaeshwara puthra Vighna Vinayaka paada namasthe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 advaitin, "Lady Joyce" <ladyjoy@v...> wrote: > - > "Madathil Rajendran Nair" <madathilnair> > > > > > > Incidentally, what does pot-belly > > signify? Is it the whole of this samSArA? > > My pot belly, besides being what it is because I am part elephant, > although an illusory one to advaitins such as yourself, > signifies to some the cosmos, the universe, although also an illusion. > It is this whole samSArA and then some. > > My belly is big because it has to be, for I govern the universe, all of the > gods and goddesses, since the beginning of time and even before. > Being that all of these are contained within my belly, symbolically, > it is an illusion that takes up much space. Namaste. His elephant-head is adored as the emblem of wisdom. The elephant- headed God is sitting on a mouse, the smallest of animals – showing His mastery over everything from the micro to the macro. He is therefore the wisdom of comprehension of the relationship between the micro and the macro. The whole figure of vinAyaka with the sweet dish in His hand and with His pot-belly infuses an utter contentment typifying wisdom. It is the spiritual contentment of the fullness of the Absolute. The pot-belly also signifies that the entire universe is within Him. It is this contentment that makes Him dance sometimes. prANAms to all advaitins profvk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 Of all the Gods in the Hindu pantheon, it is Lord Ganesh who is the most intriguing. Ganesh’s popularity remains for ever in Hinduism. He was so established among the people of the land that he continued to retain the most prominent position in both ancient and modern Hinduism. Every temple has a nook for Ganesh. Every prayer starts with a recital to Ganesh. At the beginning of every pooja, Ganesh is remembered. The concept of Ganesh will never go away. “Parabrahma Roopam Ganesham Bhajama, Omkara Roopam Ganesham Bhajama. Pranava Swaroopam Ganesham bhajama” His very form is said to resemble the sacred letter….OM, in Sanskrit. It is perhaps the highest form of worship conceived by the Hindus - worship of the Infinite, Brahman: the Cosmos. The Cosmos is every thing that was, is and will be. Regards, Ram "V. Krishnamurthy" wrote: > advaitin, "Lady Joyce" <ladyjoy@v...> wrote: > > - > > "Madathil Rajendran Nair" <madathilnair> > > > > > > > > > > Incidentally, what does pot-belly > > > signify? Is it the whole of this samSArA? > > > > My pot belly, besides being what it is because I am part elephant, > > although an illusory one to advaitins such as yourself, > > signifies to some the cosmos, the universe, although also an > illusion. > > It is this whole samSArA and then some. > > > > My belly is big because it has to be, for I govern the universe, > all of the > > gods and goddesses, since the beginning of time and even before. > > Being that all of these are contained within my belly, > symbolically, > > it is an illusion that takes up much space. > Namaste. > His elephant-head is adored as the emblem of wisdom. The elephant- > headed God is sitting on a mouse, the smallest of animals – showing > His mastery over everything from the micro to the macro. He is > therefore the wisdom of comprehension of the relationship between > the micro and the macro. The whole figure of vinAyaka with the sweet > dish in His hand and with His pot-belly infuses an utter contentment > typifying wisdom. It is the spiritual contentment of the fullness of > the Absolute. The pot-belly also signifies that the entire universe > is within Him. It is this contentment that makes Him dance sometimes. > > prANAms to all advaitins > profvk > > > Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of Atman and Brahman. > Advaitin List Archives available at: http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ > To Post a message send an email to : advaitin > Messages Archived at: advaitin/messages > > > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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