Guest guest Posted October 4, 2003 Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 Greg wrote: But this entire notion of an owner of experience is unfounded. It is going beyond what is given in experience to posit an owner of experience. "Ben's ownership of experience" is not given in experience. For a "Ben" to really be the owner of experience would entail that Ben stands outside of experience in order to do this. Impossible, and no evidence in its favor. Experience is not in Ben. Rather, Ben is an image in experience. See ya! Hello Greg, As long as there is a location of experience then it is felt. To put it bluntly, Ramana felt pain and so did Ramakrishna. I don't think that ownership comes into it when your house is on fire and you're in it. The exact metaphysical mechanics doesn't change one iota physiological sensations except of course that the sage living in the present moment is not plauged by memory and dread. His/Her sacrifice is to be with us. Here I emphasize that I am stressing the sense of 'experience' that we all hold in common that makes communication possible. There is an assumption of common structure i.e. human nature/dharma in this which logically precedes the solitary lucubrations of the solipsist. Best Wishes, Michael. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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