Guest guest Posted October 5, 2003 Report Share Posted October 5, 2003 >> >... This doubt because you talked about something happening IN >> >the body. I thought we were talking advaita here. > > Dear Mr. Nair, Thank you for responding, although it is short. Tantra is not based on negation but on embrace. That does not mean indulgence and neither is there surpression. When all human beings would suddenly die, the world will keep on turning. You do not have a body? Some philosophers are excellent jugglers. Did you ever wonder about the possibilities of the nervous system in a human being? That is where the advaitic realistion/initiation takes place as Grace isn¹t it so? If the entire universe would be totally insentient ... You are aware that Ramana Maharshi was not unaware with Tantra? And that there is a very distinct and rather extensive thread of non-dual Tantra? Ever heard e.g. of the great Abhinavaguptacharya? Am I mistaken to sense that some people on this list seem to be rather short-minded and offensive to people who try to add another perspective? I find it highly interesting and astonishing. Seems that there is quite some Œadvaitic¹ fundamentalism with some esteemed members here... Then always there will be religious wars. What is the difference between Advaita and Love? Kind regards, Ralph. Note from the List Moderators: The list moderators do not control free expression from members all members including you are expected to follow the list guidelines and conduct the discussions within the list scope and its guidelines. We can all be broad-minded and show compassion. The love only come by deeds and not by words! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2003 Report Share Posted October 5, 2003 Namaste Rev. Ralph Nataraj. My comments, to the relevant extent, are in brackets. Rev. Nataraj: > When all human beings would suddenly die, the world will keep on turning. [Madathil Nair: Who is there to see the world turning? Without anybody seeing, can it have existence? This is what we are discussing.] Rev. Nataraj: > You do not have a body? Some philosophers are excellent jugglers. Did you > ever wonder about the possibilities of the nervous system in a human being? > That is where the advaitic realistion/initiation takes place as Grace isn¹t > it so? [Madathil Nair: I know I have a body and it has a nervous system with wondrous capabilities. I too have a cat out there in my courtyard with a body having more wonderful capabilities which my body doesn't possess. All these are there because I AM.] Rev. Nataraj: If the entire universe would be totally insentient ... [Madathil Nair: You need someone to appreciate that insentient universe. Dont you? What is that? With one 'if' you have answered all the debators here on the existence of objects!] Rev. Nataraj: > You are aware that Ramana Maharshi was not unaware with Tantra? (Madathil Nair: I am not very sure if he has said anything. Our Vioricaji might have a quote here. Being what He was, the Master should have definitely known.] Rev. Nataraj: > And that there is a very distinct and rather extensive thread of non-dual > Tantra? [Madathil Nair: So be it.] Rev. Natraj: > Ever heard e.g. of the great Abhinavaguptacharya? [Madathil Nair: Yes. I believe I have gleaned what is essential from him although I might not have read all his works in original form. His commentary on the Bhagawad GItA is at the GItA supersite. I have the liberty to ignore what is not relevant to my advaitic vision solidly based on the teachings of Sankara.] Rev. Ralph: > Am I mistaken to sense that some people on this list seem to be rather > short-minded and offensive to people who try to add another perspective? I > find it highly interesting and astonishing. Seems that there is quite some > Œadvaitic¹ fundamentalism with some esteemed members here... Then always > there will be religious wars. What is the difference between Advaita and > Love? [Madathil Nair: The moderators have answered you at the bottom of your post. About the last question, I don't have to look for differences when I am both advaita and love. What in the world inspired you to ask that question! I am not for religious wars. I don't think anybody else here is. Om ShAntih, Shantih, Shantihi!] Kind regards. Madathil Nair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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