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Is the World Self or Non-self? Digest Number 1881

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Michael said:

 

"Part of the problem with the 'object' is the

subject/predicate fallacy. We imagine that there is

something existing that is red, sweet scented, with

thorns, of layered petals etc. We think that if we

take all those predicates away that there will be

something left over which is an object called a rose.

The rose is all those things together and not an

existent other than them."

 

But what about the alien who has no eyes, detecting it using echo location,

has no nose but delights in the aura of its radioactive decay and eats it

for a snack? If we each have our own set of associated attributes and know

nothing of the other's set, does it still make sense to say that there is no

'independent' object? (Note I am playing devil's advocate here!) And what

about an extreme example where one of us can detect attributes of a supposed

object but the other can't?

 

Someone (not you I'm sure!) might want to say that the red, sweet scents

etc. are in my mind while the radioactive aura and echoes are in the alien's

mind so that there is still no independent object. My response to that of

course would be that they had fallen into my trap and were now postulating

an independent alien object!

 

Best wishes,

 

Dennis

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