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entaro mahaanubhaavulu,

shall i make an attempt too?

 

i have already said that our dharma is the

most scientific. there is nothing herein that will not

conform to science.

 

we are discussing "vayu "[air?,

vapour?,ether?], vacuum , space ,aakaasha,--etc.

let us look at the contents of the

interstellar "space" as we know it today:

 

the atmosphere consisting of air as one of the

constituents is present only upto about 32 to 40 KMs

over the earth. [as you know, on the top of the

everest ,29000 feet~ say ~9 KMs , it is already highly

rarefied with vary little air to sustain breathing].

beyond this 40 KM, it is absolute vacuum.

 

 

now let us measure vacuum.

 

 

the vacuum you have in your double walled

thrmos flask is between 0.1 to 0.01 torr [ Torr is the

unit of torricellian vacuum ].

a commercial rotary vacuum pump can evacuate to

a limit of 0.003 torr.

our satellits, INSATS, ROHINIS, RESOURCESATS,

BHASKARA, ARYABHATTA and others function at vacuum

levels of 0.00000000001 to 0.000000000001 Torr.

our satellites are simulation tested at these

vacuum levels . the evacuation to such deeeep vacuum

llevels are achieved by the use of double stage rotary

pumps PLUS turbomolecular pumps, plus liquid HELIUM

condensation, ionic pumping, etc [of the molecules of

oxygen, nitrogen,helium,argon, xenon etc ].

 

this is the vacuum levels available in the space

in which the moon, mercury, mars, jupiter, saturn

----- and their satellites, and all the man-made

satellites are orbiting.

 

even this empty vacuum of space is not at all

empty. there are ionic clouds, helium puffs, hudrogen

cumuluses,neucleonic clouds , electromagnetic energy

concentrates, etc are present in abundance.

 

therefore to conclude

" there was aakaasha ---

then came vayu ----

then came matter ---- "

is uttlerly oversimplistic.

 

our maharishies were [--"are", rather, because

most are chiranjeevies ] multiple- nobel-deserving

scientists, and their wordings are extremely potent

with meaning and do not tolerate simple

transliterations.

 

now let us look at available " evidence " of

creation of " vayu ".:

 

the source of the unceasing energy of the sun

is the fusion-fission nuclear reaction of hydrogen

molecules/atoms.

 

space probes have identified evidence of the

presence of hydrogen and traces of moisture in

jupiter. even if oxygen, hydrogen and their fusion

product- water vapor- is found in any of the astral

bodies, it will be a millennia or more before a life

form akin to a unicellular amoeba can be formed out

of that combination.

 

NOW LET US LOOK AT THE CREATION AS OUTLINED IN

THE VEDAS :

 

Brahma was created from the naabhi of

mahavishnu, and he jumped out thro the nostril of his

creator!.

brahma created the first manu. he created the

ashta vasus who were already avadhhootas and wanted

immediate union with parabrahman. they landed at the

feet of vishnu, wanting nothing of the dreary work of

creation etc.

then brahma created the second manu----

only after a few more manus were " born" that

ultimately " creation" started.....---- .

 

and what was created ???

aakaasha--- antariksha --- vaayu ----

prapancham---- it was after a long long looooong time

[in the time-scale of brahma] that life came into

being.

 

and how did evolution take place ???

 

LOOK LOOK ____---

 

 

the first avatar was matsya - the fish-

life form surviving in water only.

second avatar is koorma -- life forms that can

survive basically in water, but can live in

land too.

the third is the varaaha - the pig - life forms

that are land based, but still love the

wetland-marhes.

NARASIMHA -- life forms transitioning from

animal to human.

vaamana - the evolving human.

parasuraama - the fighting man , in an

environment whare the fittest alone will

survive.

SRI RAAMA - the IDEAL MAN .

SRI krishna - the practical man .

kalki - the man commanding the horse-

the horse-power ---the machine---

AND ULTIMATELY THE MACHINE WILL SWALLOW THE

MAN.

 

AND THEN WHAT ?????

when man destroys himself ---

pralaya payodhi jale ----

 

IT IS PRALAYA

 

AND EONS OF BRAHMA KALPAMS LATER ---

 

THIS PRALAYA IS WHAT ?

PRALAYA OF WATER ???

OR THE PRALAYA OF FLUIDS ????

FLUIDS OF GASES????

FLUIDS OF STREAMS OF

SUPERCONSCIOUSNESS----ALPHA PARTICLES,GAMMA

RAYS,RADIATIONS, NEUTRINOS,ELECTRONS,

ENERGIES,HYDROGEN, HELIUM, -------

 

see ----my RESPECTED advaitins---

can any exposition be more scientific???

 

and all of these out of their minds -----

look at the stupendous LEVEL to which the

" science of the mind"

had progrssed to.

 

hey bhagavathi, the mother of bhagavaan,

namaskaarams unto you.

hey devi! hey bhagavaan!,

pranaams unto you---

hey guru r devatas--

vasishtta, vaamadeva, naarada,bhargava,

chyavana, aapnavaana, aurva, jamadagnaye,

paraasara,vedavyaasa , sukabrahmam,

aadi shankaraacharya, shringeri

shankaracharyas, kaanchi sankaraacharyas,

hey anantha koti maharishe

anantha koti namaskaaraan unto you.

 

entharo mahaanubhavulu,

anthariki vandanamu.

 

a.v.krshnan.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Sunder Hattangadi <sunderh wrote: >

advaitin, "Madathil Rajendran

> Nair"

> <madathilnair> wrote:Perhaps, Sunderji can help

> us

> > here.

>

>

> Namaste,

>

> I shall give it a try!

>

> These are the dictionary definitions -

>

> Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon

>

> Entry AkAza

>

> Meaning m. (Ved.) or (later) n. (ifc. f. %{A}) a

> free or open

> space , vacuity AitBr. S3Br. MBh. &c. [127,1] ; the

> ether , sky or

> atmosphere Naigh. S3Br. Mn. &c. ; (%{am}) n. (in

> philos.) the subtle

> and ethereal fluid (supposed to fill and pervade the

> universe and to

> be the peculiar vehicle of life and of sound)

> Veda1ntas. &c. ; Brahma

> (as identical with ether) L. ; = %{AkAza-bhASita}

> below Comm. on

> S3ak. ; (%{e}) loc. ind. in the air (a stage

> direction implying

> something said by or to a person out of sight)

> Mr2icch. S3ak. &c.

>

==================================================================

> anta4rikSa

> Entry antarikSa

>

> Meaning n. the intermediate space between heaven

> and earth ; (in the

> Veda) the middle of the three spheres or regions of

> life ; the

> atmosphere or sky ; the air ; talc.

>

>

======================================================================

>

> The sense in which I have understood

> panchikarana is that it is

> a heuristic device in Vedanta. Other hypotheses can

> be advanced, but

> the progression to the more subtle levels of

> analysis of pancha-

> koshas and avastha-trayas till the

> jiva-brahma-unity(aikyam)

> has to be undertaken.

>

> The Tantra and Yoga approaches have described

> other 'tattvas'(upto 36!), and Vedanta has limited

> itself to the

> minimium five. Shankara Vedanta seems to have made a

> concession here,

> as its firm siddhanta (conclusion) that

> srishti-vichara 9nature of

> objects) can never be conclusive without

> atma-vichara (nature of

> one's self).

>

> Regards,

>

> Sunder

>

>

>

>

 

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--- av krshnan <avkrshnan wrote:

>

> NOW LET US LOOK AT THE CREATION AS OUTLINED IN

> THE VEDAS :

>

> Brahma was created from the naabhi of

> mahavishnu, and he jumped out thro the nostril of his

> creator!.

> a.v.krshnan.

 

Shree Krishnana - is this Vedic or PouraNic?

 

Hari Om!

Sadananda

 

 

 

=====

What you have is His gift to you and what you do with what you have is your gift

to Him - Swami Chinmayananda.

 

 

 

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