Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 entaro mahaanubhaavulu, shall i make an attempt too? i have already said that our dharma is the most scientific. there is nothing herein that will not conform to science. we are discussing "vayu "[air?, vapour?,ether?], vacuum , space ,aakaasha,--etc. let us look at the contents of the interstellar "space" as we know it today: the atmosphere consisting of air as one of the constituents is present only upto about 32 to 40 KMs over the earth. [as you know, on the top of the everest ,29000 feet~ say ~9 KMs , it is already highly rarefied with vary little air to sustain breathing]. beyond this 40 KM, it is absolute vacuum. now let us measure vacuum. the vacuum you have in your double walled thrmos flask is between 0.1 to 0.01 torr [ Torr is the unit of torricellian vacuum ]. a commercial rotary vacuum pump can evacuate to a limit of 0.003 torr. our satellits, INSATS, ROHINIS, RESOURCESATS, BHASKARA, ARYABHATTA and others function at vacuum levels of 0.00000000001 to 0.000000000001 Torr. our satellites are simulation tested at these vacuum levels . the evacuation to such deeeep vacuum llevels are achieved by the use of double stage rotary pumps PLUS turbomolecular pumps, plus liquid HELIUM condensation, ionic pumping, etc [of the molecules of oxygen, nitrogen,helium,argon, xenon etc ]. this is the vacuum levels available in the space in which the moon, mercury, mars, jupiter, saturn ----- and their satellites, and all the man-made satellites are orbiting. even this empty vacuum of space is not at all empty. there are ionic clouds, helium puffs, hudrogen cumuluses,neucleonic clouds , electromagnetic energy concentrates, etc are present in abundance. therefore to conclude " there was aakaasha --- then came vayu ---- then came matter ---- " is uttlerly oversimplistic. our maharishies were [--"are", rather, because most are chiranjeevies ] multiple- nobel-deserving scientists, and their wordings are extremely potent with meaning and do not tolerate simple transliterations. now let us look at available " evidence " of creation of " vayu ".: the source of the unceasing energy of the sun is the fusion-fission nuclear reaction of hydrogen molecules/atoms. space probes have identified evidence of the presence of hydrogen and traces of moisture in jupiter. even if oxygen, hydrogen and their fusion product- water vapor- is found in any of the astral bodies, it will be a millennia or more before a life form akin to a unicellular amoeba can be formed out of that combination. NOW LET US LOOK AT THE CREATION AS OUTLINED IN THE VEDAS : Brahma was created from the naabhi of mahavishnu, and he jumped out thro the nostril of his creator!. brahma created the first manu. he created the ashta vasus who were already avadhhootas and wanted immediate union with parabrahman. they landed at the feet of vishnu, wanting nothing of the dreary work of creation etc. then brahma created the second manu---- only after a few more manus were " born" that ultimately " creation" started.....---- . and what was created ??? aakaasha--- antariksha --- vaayu ---- prapancham---- it was after a long long looooong time [in the time-scale of brahma] that life came into being. and how did evolution take place ??? LOOK LOOK ____--- the first avatar was matsya - the fish- life form surviving in water only. second avatar is koorma -- life forms that can survive basically in water, but can live in land too. the third is the varaaha - the pig - life forms that are land based, but still love the wetland-marhes. NARASIMHA -- life forms transitioning from animal to human. vaamana - the evolving human. parasuraama - the fighting man , in an environment whare the fittest alone will survive. SRI RAAMA - the IDEAL MAN . SRI krishna - the practical man . kalki - the man commanding the horse- the horse-power ---the machine--- AND ULTIMATELY THE MACHINE WILL SWALLOW THE MAN. AND THEN WHAT ????? when man destroys himself --- pralaya payodhi jale ---- IT IS PRALAYA AND EONS OF BRAHMA KALPAMS LATER --- THIS PRALAYA IS WHAT ? PRALAYA OF WATER ??? OR THE PRALAYA OF FLUIDS ???? FLUIDS OF GASES???? FLUIDS OF STREAMS OF SUPERCONSCIOUSNESS----ALPHA PARTICLES,GAMMA RAYS,RADIATIONS, NEUTRINOS,ELECTRONS, ENERGIES,HYDROGEN, HELIUM, ------- see ----my RESPECTED advaitins--- can any exposition be more scientific??? and all of these out of their minds ----- look at the stupendous LEVEL to which the " science of the mind" had progrssed to. hey bhagavathi, the mother of bhagavaan, namaskaarams unto you. hey devi! hey bhagavaan!, pranaams unto you--- hey guru r devatas-- vasishtta, vaamadeva, naarada,bhargava, chyavana, aapnavaana, aurva, jamadagnaye, paraasara,vedavyaasa , sukabrahmam, aadi shankaraacharya, shringeri shankaracharyas, kaanchi sankaraacharyas, hey anantha koti maharishe anantha koti namaskaaraan unto you. entharo mahaanubhavulu, anthariki vandanamu. a.v.krshnan. --- Sunder Hattangadi <sunderh wrote: > advaitin, "Madathil Rajendran > Nair" > <madathilnair> wrote:Perhaps, Sunderji can help > us > > here. > > > Namaste, > > I shall give it a try! > > These are the dictionary definitions - > > Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon > > Entry AkAza > > Meaning m. (Ved.) or (later) n. (ifc. f. %{A}) a > free or open > space , vacuity AitBr. S3Br. MBh. &c. [127,1] ; the > ether , sky or > atmosphere Naigh. S3Br. Mn. &c. ; (%{am}) n. (in > philos.) the subtle > and ethereal fluid (supposed to fill and pervade the > universe and to > be the peculiar vehicle of life and of sound) > Veda1ntas. &c. ; Brahma > (as identical with ether) L. ; = %{AkAza-bhASita} > below Comm. on > S3ak. ; (%{e}) loc. ind. in the air (a stage > direction implying > something said by or to a person out of sight) > Mr2icch. S3ak. &c. > ================================================================== > anta4rikSa > Entry antarikSa > > Meaning n. the intermediate space between heaven > and earth ; (in the > Veda) the middle of the three spheres or regions of > life ; the > atmosphere or sky ; the air ; talc. > > ====================================================================== > > The sense in which I have understood > panchikarana is that it is > a heuristic device in Vedanta. Other hypotheses can > be advanced, but > the progression to the more subtle levels of > analysis of pancha- > koshas and avastha-trayas till the > jiva-brahma-unity(aikyam) > has to be undertaken. > > The Tantra and Yoga approaches have described > other 'tattvas'(upto 36!), and Vedanta has limited > itself to the > minimium five. Shankara Vedanta seems to have made a > concession here, > as its firm siddhanta (conclusion) that > srishti-vichara 9nature of > objects) can never be conclusive without > atma-vichara (nature of > one's self). > > Regards, > > Sunder > > > > ______________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Messenger http://mail.messenger..co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 --- av krshnan <avkrshnan wrote: > > NOW LET US LOOK AT THE CREATION AS OUTLINED IN > THE VEDAS : > > Brahma was created from the naabhi of > mahavishnu, and he jumped out thro the nostril of his > creator!. > a.v.krshnan. Shree Krishnana - is this Vedic or PouraNic? Hari Om! Sadananda ===== What you have is His gift to you and what you do with what you have is your gift to Him - Swami Chinmayananda. The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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