Guest guest Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 These Upanishads and other spiritual texts are less meant for discussion and more meant as a practical outline for practice. All religions talk about these points of neti, neti, acceptance and the experience of non-dual, unqualified Being. In the practice of Kundalini Yoga, as taught by Yogi Bhajan, (which sees everything from the approach of practical realization of the ever abiding truth), the :neti neti" approach is what is called the "negative mind meditation." This doesn't mean it's negative, but that the mind has a facility to discard rising content and empty itself. In Buddhist practice this is mindfulness, where you notice and release. In Kundalini yoga, it is a vital part of every exercise, kriya and meditation, because the energy is so expansive and flow so forceful, that the mind has to be directed to remain unattached and passive, which is what net neti or negative mind meditation is for. You experience the flows of radiance, remain passive, notice and release, notice and let go. Then comes "acceptance," which is called the "positive mind meditation." Once the flows of energy are released, they become expansive, deeper, even more radiant and pervasive. At this stage, the mind is empty of clinging to the flow of energy and acceptance is practiced, to just be with the flow of expanding pervading energy consciousness. Let it be, let it be. As this continues for some time something new happens: A single intelligent force awakens, pulsing "I as I" and resonates throughout the body, where the sense of "I" is sucked in and light pours out of everywhere, i.e., time is dissolved and space becomes infinite. This soundless reverberation acts as a tuning drone for the whole body (whole meaning inclusive of all the plains and fields that make up the body). This impalpable pulsation of "atma sphurana" is the anahat. There is no inside or outside for It. This is called the "neutral mind meditation," where the Self abides in Itself, and a radical force automatically discards everything, while pouring forth a force of light from in and behind the atoms. The neutral mind, located in the heart is the first clear experience of one's identity as Self, single and pervasive. This is the beginning. In Kundalini Yoga practice which centers around the teachings of the Sikh gurus, it is called "Sunia," or "hearing" in Christ's terms, or in Vedanta terms, Sravana. hearing becomes remembrance or recollection, like coming out of an amnesia. Recollection becomes perfect abiding. Suddenly the knot of the heart is severed and even the idea of directed practice, or, as with the neutral mind, a force that automatically practices you, both vanish, like a mirage. All this to say that these adviata terms are guidelines for practice. To try to discuss their contradiction is a meaningless use of time and thought. It's like standing in front of a car and discussing the contradictory terms in an instruction manual that says that first you have to push the car, and then once it's rolling, pop the clutch so it will go on it's own. To then conjecture about the nature of the difference between the moving car as being pushed (negative mind effort), versus the moving car, once it's in motion on it's own (positive mind acceptance), when the real issue is that you want to take it for a spin (neutral mind practicality or reality of experience), makes no sense. So, we've somehow taken all these texts that are really manuals of practical instruction of how to get to the non-dual experience, and turned them into metaphysical and otherwise abstract obtuse discussions having no meaning or purpose. The realization of the Self is nothing if not ultimately practical, something you can feel, experience, something that we are. Message: 1 <advaitin> Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:31:25 -0800 (PST) kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada Contradictions in Adviata ? – Think twice or until contradiction in that very question is resolved. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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