Guest guest Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 hariH Om !! We had the same message in the Advaita-L, just a week ago, and I reacted to that by posting the following message. It resulted into a serious and contentious debate among some members. Some said that it was appropriate to charge $ 350 for this 24 e-mail based eVedanta course, as per times. They argue that organisations have to raise money some how. Some justified that on the basis that the money goes to build some monumental organisation which Swami Chinmayananda wished/visioned. I personally oppose this MINIMUM $ 350 per person based eVedanta course. I seriously think that it is unaffordable for many people, ($ 700 for wife and husband, to read e-mails is too much of a demand). Younger generation which is in colleges, many un-informed people about Vedanta, and many people who may otherwise get to know Vedanta but are discouraged by this fee barrier are excluded from the target group. Also, if I find some piece of information in those lessons interesting, and would like to share with larger audience, I can not do it without diluting the goals of the Mission or deceiving my own conscience. I believed always that Vedanta education from all forms of Asramams in India, is taught free of demand for MINIMUM donation/FEE, which kept its wide availability whoever sought it. I also believe that a rich and resourceful organisation of world-wide reach such as Chinmaya Mission has more responsibility to keep the holy traditions of Sanatana Dharma in word and spirit. This move to commercialise the Vedanta teaching defeats the tenets of Vedantic teaching. I know that this group has several patrons of Chinmaya Mission. Please look at the related messages at the following link and follow its thread and decide the Pros and Cons of offering a MINIMUM FEE/DONATION based Vedanta course. http://escribe.com/religion/advaita/m14349.html --------------- hariH OM !! Do the members think that a eVedanta course which seeks/suggests MINIMUM $ 350 per year be promoted ?? Can the knowledge of Vedanta be sold in 24 e-mail capsules and concluded with a certificate (for what purpose !! ). Do whatever you can to defeat any trend of minimum fee/donation based Vedanta education. Let us tell everybody that Vedanta is priceless Knowledge of the great Rishis of yore and practiced now by devoted seekers. Om Namo Narayanaya !! Srikrishna --- smarur wrote: > The following web based course, started by > Chinmaya Mission, may be of interest to the > members of this list: > > http://www.chinmayamission.com/evedanta/ > > Regards, > Sudhakar -------- advaitin, "Ram Chandran" <rchandran@c...> wrote: > Namaste: > > Swami Tejomayanandaji, the Head of Chinmya Mission has developed a > electronic correspondence E-Vedanta Course. The details of the course > are provided below. I highly recommend this course to those who want > to get a basic systematic understanding of Vedanta. > > E-Vedanta Course > Pujya Gurudev Swami Chinmayananda, the founder of the Chinmaya > Mission initiated a unique method to study Vedanta, in the form of > easy lessons, without any books, at home. He specially designed this > course to cater to the different types of students all over the world > for the subjective development of their personality leading them to > the highest state of perfection, without interfering with their > official, social or domestic commitments. > > These lessons of Vedanta will now be made available to all interested > students and seekers by e-mail! Pujya Guruji Swami Tejomayananda, > Head Chinmaya Mission World Wide will be launching this course from > the Chinmaya International Foundation on November 30th 2003. > > Pujya Gurudev > Swami Chinmayanandaji > There is no need for one to change one's faith, religion or spiritual > master to do this course. Any one irrespective of caste, creed, > religion or nationality can do this course. If this course were > faithfully followed, one would gain sufficient maturity and spiritual > stability leading to personality unfoldment. The contents of the > course are provided at: > http://www.chinmayamission.com/evedanta/Syllabus.htm > > A sample lesson is also available for free download: > http://www.chinmayamission.com/evedanta/E-Vedanta-Lessons-Set-1.pdf > > The cost of the course is $350 for those who reside outside India and > Rs.1000 for those reside in India. Please note that the revenue from > this course will be used to expand the Chinmaya International > Foundation (CIF). Chinmaya International Foundation (CIF), > established in 1989, is a research centre for the advanced study of > Sanskrit and Indology. It is a cross-cultural forum for the exchange > of knowledge. Pujya Gurudev Swami Chinmayananda visualized CIF as a > bridge between the East and the West, science and spirituality and > between the pundit and the public. > > Warmest regards, > > Ram Chandran > > Welcome to Vedanta, the e-way! > Register today!! > > What is Vedanta? > Vedanta, literally `the end portion of the Vedas', is the philosophy > of the Upanishads, the Bhagawad Geeta and the Brahma Sutra, the most > important scriptures of India. > > In ignorance we have come to identify ourselves with the matter > vestures of Body, Mind and Intellect and we live a life not better > than an animal – eating, sleeping, working, procreating and dying. Is > there not anything more to life than this? > > Vedanta points out that our real nature is pure Existence- > Consciousness-Bliss. This knowledge of oneself helps one live a life > of perfect enlightened living. > > Source: http://www.chinmayamission.com/evedanta/index.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 praNAm prabhuji-s Hare Krishna I am bit confused about this course & media of teaching & need learned members clarification. Is it not mandatory that aspirant should undergo upanayanam (sacred thread ceremony) before formally taking vedAdhyayana ?? Apart from this all dvijas should fulfill all customary obligations like nitya & naimittika karma (sandhyavandanam & nitya devatArchana etc.) before taking veda pAtha in a traditional manner according to dharma shAstras. How CM check the eligibility of desired candidates in this e-media course?? Hari Hari Hari Bol!!! bhaskar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 Namaste Bhaskarji, How about putting it this way? Those who have at least one of the 4 qualifications mentioned in Vedanta are the ones who will turn to Vedanta. The fruit of their customary obligations may not be a result of karmas performed in this life. It could be a results of satkarmas in previous lives. We don't have to be overtly concerned about the eligibility of Vedanta students. Only bees will search for honey or amrtam. I don't see the need for performing Upanayana for a person pursuing the study of Jnana Kanda. I think traditional schools still follow this tradition but I don't know how investing the sacred thread will help the student in understanding Vedanta. For it depends on chitta shuddhi and not the investiture of the sacred thread. I am also aware that there could be 2 types of aspirants in Vedantic study. One could pursue for acedemic interest alone and the other solely for moksha. In my opinion we do need both in our modern society. From this standpoint Chinmaya Mission makes the Jnana Kanda available for all without discrimination. We have to commend them for the great work that they have been doing. I salute them. best regards, K Kathirasan > > bhaskar.yr [sMTP:bhaskar.yr] > Friday, November 14, 2003 11:34 AM > advaitin > Cc: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta > Re: Chinmaya Mission offers an E-Vedanta Course > > > praNAm prabhuji-s > Hare Krishna > > I am bit confused about this course & media of teaching & need learned > members clarification. Is it not mandatory that aspirant should undergo > upanayanam (sacred thread ceremony) before formally taking vedAdhyayana ?? > Apart from this all dvijas should fulfill all customary obligations like > nitya & naimittika karma (sandhyavandanam & nitya devatArchana etc.) > before > taking veda pAtha in a traditional manner according to dharma shAstras. > How CM check the eligibility of desired candidates in this e-media > course?? > > Hari Hari Hari Bol!!! > bhaskar > > > > > Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of > Atman and Brahman. > Advaitin List Archives available at: > http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ > To Post a message send an email to : advaitin > Messages Archived at: advaitin/messages > > > > Your use of is subject to > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 praNAm kathirasan prabhuji Hare Krishna Thanks for your clarification. Prabhuji, I am not complaining the meritorious venture of CM. Just I am trying to analyse it from traditional view point. Shankara (??) himself insists the importance of *vipratva* in narajanma in the second verse of vivEkachudAmaNi. Prabhuji, I agree with you, just for the name sake if we wearing the sacred thread, it does not serve any purpose. Those who undergone this ceremony should strictly adhere to his nitya & naimittika karma-s. . We start our sandhyavandanam with a mantra *apavitro pavitrovA .......sa bhAya antarh shuchihi. This clearly shows the very purpose behind sandhyAvandanam is chitta shuddhi. This is the reason why our ancestors put so much emphasis on *dvijatva* & associated karma-s to qualify to study upanishad vidya. Since the indispensable requisite for Atma gnAna is antahkaraNa shuddi this qualification can be easily achieved if aspirant do it as mandatory/customary duty. Hari Hari Hari Bol!!! bhaskar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 Namaste K Kathirasanji and Bhaskarji, "Only bees will search for honey or amrtam." I agree. I think that the classic 4 qualifications still apply these days, but they have become an "invisible hand." A powerful hand, but an invisible one. The 4 qualifications have become descriptive instead of prescriptive. Other paths, such as Buddhist Madhyamika and Jewish Kabbala, have similar qualifications for the entrant. Traditionally, the aspirant to advaita vedanta was vetted by the teacher for the 4 qualifications. I'm not so sure how the upanayanam (sacred thread ceremony) works, but there was an effort to admit to Vedanta study only those who were ready for it. These days, in the wide-open age of the internet, amazon.com, and Barnes & Noble, this kind of vetting cannot universally be done. Anyone with a bit of cash can buy the Vedantic texts, and even set up a website where they expound on them to their heart's content. Nondualism is trendy these days. The language sounds sophisticated, and some of the concepts have even worked their way into popular culture, as in the Matrix movies. But the classic 4 qualifications still apply. They are descriptive. They describe the kinds of students who pursue the study for the right reason and with the appropriate mental tools. Even with a pile of vedanta books on their desk, not all students will stick with it. Those students without the patience or focus or discrimination or burning desire for liberation will lose interest and turn elsewhere. For example, what happens if one studies without the qualification number 4, mumukshutva, the burning desire for liberation? One will then side-track their study of vedanta in some other direction, to serve some other end. I know many students who study nondualism (less often the traditional advaita vedanta) because they seek to solve personal problems. They actually believe they are earnestly looking for enlightenment. But for them, enlightenment is a means to another end. The *other* goal is their true goal, not enlightenment. One acquaintance of mine was told by her teacher that enlightenment would allow her to launch her singing career and get a record contract. Another acquaintance with money issues has pursued his neo-advaitic search for over 15 years. He was told by his first teacher that with enlightenment, he'd never have to work for a living again. He still believes that "consciousness makes all things happen; you are consciousness, so you can draw wealth towards you." For those who are interested, I have an article that goes into this in a bit more depth: http://www.nonduality.com/goode2.htm#prereq Hari OM! --Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 DEar Bhasker Prabhuji Namaste The four fold qualifications, slowly but definitely take place, in some degree, in one without his knowledge when he starts studying seriously Vedanta and starts doing Sravana and Manana and be in them. No efforts required as it is a bonus like a flower vendor gets the fragrance of the flowers automatically. May I sayIt is my personal experience. Hari Om Mani bhaskar.yr wrote:Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of Atman and Brahman. Advaitin List Archives available at: http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ To Post a message send an email to : advaitin Messages Archived at: advaitin/messages Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 Excellently written! I agree with Kathirasanji. If brahman is alone the truth then one should not bother about these unreal distinctions like dvija, non-dvija, upanayana etc for studying the jnAna kanda as long as one is sincere. However I am not sure if vedAntic teachings can be charged as the chinmayananda mission is trying to do. I also think that vedAntic study is useless if it does not change the person who is studying it. advaitin, K Kathirasan NCS <kkathir@n...> wrote: > Namaste Bhaskarji, > > How about putting it this way? Those who have at least one of the 4 > qualifications mentioned in Vedanta are the ones who will turn to Vedanta. > The fruit of their customary obligations may not be a result of karmas > performed in this life. It could be a results of satkarmas in previous > lives. We don't have to be overtly concerned about the eligibility of > Vedanta students. Only bees will search for honey or amrtam. I don't see the > need for performing Upanayana for a person pursuing the study of Jnana > Kanda. I think traditional schools still follow this tradition but I don't > know how investing the sacred thread will help the student in understanding > Vedanta. For it depends on chitta shuddhi and not the investiture of the > sacred thread. I am also aware that there could be 2 types of aspirants in > Vedantic study. One could pursue for acedemic interest alone and the other > solely for moksha. In my opinion we do need both in our modern society. From > this standpoint Chinmaya Mission makes the Jnana Kanda available for all > without discrimination. We have to commend them for the great work that they > have been doing. I salute them. > > best regards, > K Kathirasan > > > > > bhaskar.yr@i... [sMTP:bhaskar.yr@i...] > > Friday, November 14, 2003 11:34 AM > > advaitin > > Cc: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta > > Re: Chinmaya Mission offers an E-Vedanta Course > > > > > > praNAm prabhuji-s > > Hare Krishna > > > > I am bit confused about this course & media of teaching & need learned > > members clarification. Is it not mandatory that aspirant should undergo > > upanayanam (sacred thread ceremony) before formally taking vedAdhyayana ?? > > Apart from this all dvijas should fulfill all customary obligations like > > nitya & naimittika karma (sandhyavandanam & nitya devatArchana etc.) > > before > > taking veda pAtha in a traditional manner according to dharma shAstras. > > How CM check the eligibility of desired candidates in this e-media > > course?? > > > > Hari Hari Hari Bol!!! > > bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of > > Atman and Brahman. > > Advaitin List Archives available at: > > http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ > > To Post a message send an email to : advaitin > > Messages Archived at: advaitin/messages > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 Hari OM! Blessed Ones, For studying Vedanta, no Upanayanam is required, In this context, When Swami Chinmayananda Started giving lectures, on Updanishads and Bhagawad Geetha, some Orthodox Brahmins complained Kanchi Periava Swami Chandrasekharendra Sarawathi,regarding What Poojya Gurudev is doing. Kanchi Periava's answer was as follows: " Stop Him if you can Godess Saraswathi is in His toungue" So there is nothing like, we should do upanayanam et al.. to study Vedas or Vedanta. Whoever is having the mind setup for studying Upanishads and Vedas will automatically turn towards it. And Chinmaya Mission is doing a great work by starting the e-vedanta course. And nothing wrong in charging money for that. Because it goes to a good cause, The money is for charity and also to help our Heritage and culture and Vedic knowledge reach more people. With Love & OM! Krishna Prasad advaitin, "narayana_kl_71" <narayana_kl_71> wrote: > > Excellently written! I agree with Kathirasanji. If brahman is alone > the truth then one should not bother about these unreal distinctions > like dvija, non-dvija, upanayana etc for studying the jnAna kanda as > long as one is sincere. However I am not sure if vedAntic teachings > can be charged as the chinmayananda mission is trying to do. I also > think that vedAntic study is useless if it does not change the person > who is studying it. > > > > advaitin, K Kathirasan NCS <kkathir@n...> > wrote: > > Namaste Bhaskarji, > > > > How about putting it this way? Those who have at least one of the 4 > > qualifications mentioned in Vedanta are the ones who will turn to > Vedanta. > > The fruit of their customary obligations may not be a result of > karmas > > performed in this life. It could be a results of satkarmas in > previous > > lives. We don't have to be overtly concerned about the eligibility > of > > Vedanta students. Only bees will search for honey or amrtam. I > don't see the > > need for performing Upanayana for a person pursuing the study of > Jnana > > Kanda. I think traditional schools still follow this tradition but > I don't > > know how investing the sacred thread will help the student in > understanding > > Vedanta. For it depends on chitta shuddhi and not the investiture > of the > > sacred thread. I am also aware that there could be 2 types of > aspirants in > > Vedantic study. One could pursue for acedemic interest alone and > the other > > solely for moksha. In my opinion we do need both in our modern > society. From > > this standpoint Chinmaya Mission makes the Jnana Kanda available > for all > > without discrimination. We have to commend them for the great work > that they > > have been doing. I salute them. > > > > best regards, > > K Kathirasan > > > > > > > > bhaskar.yr@i... [sMTP:bhaskar.yr@i...] > > > Friday, November 14, 2003 11:34 AM > > > advaitin > > > Cc: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta > > > Re: Chinmaya Mission offers an E-Vedanta > Course > > > > > > > > > praNAm prabhuji-s > > > Hare Krishna > > > > > > I am bit confused about this course & media of teaching & need > learned > > > members clarification. Is it not mandatory that aspirant should > undergo > > > upanayanam (sacred thread ceremony) before formally taking > vedAdhyayana ?? > > > Apart from this all dvijas should fulfill all customary > obligations like > > > nitya & naimittika karma (sandhyavandanam & nitya devatArchana > etc.) > > > before > > > taking veda pAtha in a traditional manner according to dharma > shAstras. > > > How CM check the eligibility of desired candidates in this e- media > > > course?? > > > > > > Hari Hari Hari Bol!!! > > > bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of > nonseparablity of > > > Atman and Brahman. > > > Advaitin List Archives available at: > > > http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ > > > To Post a message send an email to : advaitin > > > Messages Archived at: > advaitin/messages > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 Hari OM! Blessed Ones, For studying Vedanta, no Upanayanam is required, In this context, When Swami Chinmayananda Started giving lectures, on Updanishads and Bhagawad Geetha, some Orthodox Brahmins complained Kanchi Periava Swami Chandrasekharendra Sarawathi,regarding What Poojya Gurudev is doing. Kanchi Periava's answer was as follows: " Stop Him if you can Godess Saraswathi is in His toungue" So there is nothing like, we should do upanayanam et al.. to study Vedas or Vedanta. Whoever is having the mind setup for studying Upanishads and Vedas will automatically turn towards it. And Chinmaya Mission is doing a great work by starting the e-vedanta course. And nothing wrong in charging money for that. Because it goes to a good cause, The money is for charity and also to help our Heritage and culture and Vedic knowledge reach more people. With Love & OM! Krishna Prasad advaitin, "narayana_kl_71" <narayana_kl_71> wrote: > > Excellently written! I agree with Kathirasanji. If brahman is alone > the truth then one should not bother about these unreal distinctions > like dvija, non-dvija, upanayana etc for studying the jnAna kanda as > long as one is sincere. However I am not sure if vedAntic teachings > can be charged as the chinmayananda mission is trying to do. I also > think that vedAntic study is useless if it does not change the person > who is studying it. > > > > advaitin, K Kathirasan NCS <kkathir@n...> > wrote: > > Namaste Bhaskarji, > > > > How about putting it this way? Those who have at least one of the 4 > > qualifications mentioned in Vedanta are the ones who will turn to > Vedanta. > > The fruit of their customary obligations may not be a result of > karmas > > performed in this life. It could be a results of satkarmas in > previous > > lives. We don't have to be overtly concerned about the eligibility > of > > Vedanta students. Only bees will search for honey or amrtam. I > don't see the > > need for performing Upanayana for a person pursuing the study of > Jnana > > Kanda. I think traditional schools still follow this tradition but > I don't > > know how investing the sacred thread will help the student in > understanding > > Vedanta. For it depends on chitta shuddhi and not the investiture > of the > > sacred thread. I am also aware that there could be 2 types of > aspirants in > > Vedantic study. One could pursue for acedemic interest alone and > the other > > solely for moksha. In my opinion we do need both in our modern > society. From > > this standpoint Chinmaya Mission makes the Jnana Kanda available > for all > > without discrimination. We have to commend them for the great work > that they > > have been doing. I salute them. > > > > best regards, > > K Kathirasan > > > > > > > > bhaskar.yr@i... [sMTP:bhaskar.yr@i...] > > > Friday, November 14, 2003 11:34 AM > > > advaitin > > > Cc: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta > > > Re: Chinmaya Mission offers an E-Vedanta > Course > > > > > > > > > praNAm prabhuji-s > > > Hare Krishna > > > > > > I am bit confused about this course & media of teaching & need > learned > > > members clarification. Is it not mandatory that aspirant should > undergo > > > upanayanam (sacred thread ceremony) before formally taking > vedAdhyayana ?? > > > Apart from this all dvijas should fulfill all customary > obligations like > > > nitya & naimittika karma (sandhyavandanam & nitya devatArchana > etc.) > > > before > > > taking veda pAtha in a traditional manner according to dharma > shAstras. > > > How CM check the eligibility of desired candidates in this e- media > > > course?? > > > > > > Hari Hari Hari Bol!!! > > > bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of > nonseparablity of > > > Atman and Brahman. > > > Advaitin List Archives available at: > > > http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ > > > To Post a message send an email to : advaitin > > > Messages Archived at: > advaitin/messages > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 Namaskar, As one who has no qualifications at all for studying vedanta, all that I can say is that I am drawn to it beyond any understanding. It gives me pleasure and happiness more than anything else in life. It is all that I really want to do, and all that I want to know. If I were to stop and analyze what qualifications I have for study, I would have to say that I have none. And yet, it pulls me like a moth to a flame. I am grateful and astonished that it even exists. Radhe Radhe, Durga advaitin, "R.S.MANI" <r_s_mani> wrote: > DEar Bhasker Prabhuji > Namaste > The four fold qualifications, slowly but definitely take place, in some degree, in one without his knowledge when he starts studying seriously Vedanta and starts doing Sravana and Manana and be in them. No efforts required as it is a bonus like a flower vendor gets the fragrance of the flowers automatically. > May I sayIt is my personal experience. > Hari Om > Mani > bhaskar.yr@i... wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 Dear Sir, I want to know more about E - Vedhandha Course organised by Chinmaya Mission. I want to study such course. I shall be thanful to you if you could inform me all details to whom I should contact duration of the course fees etc. Thankinking you Sir Kumaran Krishna Prasad <rkrishp99 wrote: Hari OM! Blessed Ones, For studying Vedanta, no Upanayanam is required, In this context, When Swami Chinmayananda Started giving lectures, on Updanishads and Bhagawad Geetha, some Orthodox Brahmins complained Kanchi Periava Swami Chandrasekharendra Sarawathi,regarding What Poojya Gurudev is doing. Kanchi Periava's answer was as follows: " Stop Him if you can Godess Saraswathi is in His toungue" So there is nothing like, we should do upanayanam et al.. to study Vedas or Vedanta. Whoever is having the mind setup for studying Upanishads and Vedas will automatically turn towards it. And Chinmaya Mission is doing a great work by starting the e-vedanta course. And nothing wrong in charging money for that. Because it goes to a good cause, The money is for charity and also to help our Heritage and culture and Vedic knowledge reach more people. With Love & OM! Krishna Prasad advaitin, "narayana_kl_71" <narayana_kl_71> wrote: > > Excellently written! I agree with Kathirasanji. If brahman is alone > the truth then one should not bother about these unreal distinctions > like dvija, non-dvija, upanayana etc for studying the jnAna kanda as > long as one is sincere. However I am not sure if vedAntic teachings > can be charged as the chinmayananda mission is trying to do. I also > think that vedAntic study is useless if it does not change the person > who is studying it. > > > > advaitin, K Kathirasan NCS <kkathir@n...> > wrote: > > Namaste Bhaskarji, > > > > How about putting it this way? Those who have at least one of the 4 > > qualifications mentioned in Vedanta are the ones who will turn to > Vedanta. > > The fruit of their customary obligations may not be a result of > karmas > > performed in this life. It could be a results of satkarmas in > previous > > lives. We don't have to be overtly concerned about the eligibility > of > > Vedanta students. Only bees will search for honey or amrtam. I > don't see the > > need for performing Upanayana for a person pursuing the study of > Jnana > > Kanda. I think traditional schools still follow this tradition but > I don't > > know how investing the sacred thread will help the student in > understanding > > Vedanta. For it depends on chitta shuddhi and not the investiture > of the > > sacred thread. I am also aware that there could be 2 types of > aspirants in > > Vedantic study. One could pursue for acedemic interest alone and > the other > > solely for moksha. In my opinion we do need both in our modern > society. From > > this standpoint Chinmaya Mission makes the Jnana Kanda available > for all > > without discrimination. We have to commend them for the great work > that they > > have been doing. I salute them. > > > > best regards, > > K Kathirasan > > > > > > > > bhaskar.yr@i... [sMTP:bhaskar.yr@i...] > > > Friday, November 14, 2003 11:34 AM > > > advaitin > > > Cc: A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta > > > Re: Chinmaya Mission offers an E-Vedanta > Course > > > > > > > > > praNAm prabhuji-s > > > Hare Krishna > > > > > > I am bit confused about this course & media of teaching & need > learned > > > members clarification. Is it not mandatory that aspirant should > undergo > > > upanayanam (sacred thread ceremony) before formally taking > vedAdhyayana ?? > > > Apart from this all dvijas should fulfill all customary > obligations like > > > nitya & naimittika karma (sandhyavandanam & nitya devatArchana > etc.) > > > before > > > taking veda pAtha in a traditional manner according to dharma > shAstras. > > > How CM check the eligibility of desired candidates in this e- media > > > course?? > > > > > > Hari Hari Hari Bol!!! > > > bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of > nonseparablity of > > > Atman and Brahman. > > > Advaitin List Archives available at: > > > http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ > > > To Post a message send an email to : advaitin > > > Messages Archived at: > advaitin/messages > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of Atman and Brahman. Advaitin List Archives available at: http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ To Post a message send an email to : advaitin Messages Archived at: advaitin/messages Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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