Gregji- on Motive of the seeker

[Guest guest]

Namaste Shri Greg

You wrote

"

One acquaintance of mine was told by her teacher that enlightenment

would allow her to launch her singing career and get a record

contract. Another acquaintance with money issues has pursued his neo-

advaitic search for over 15 years. He was told by his first teacher

that with enlightenment, he'd never have to work for a living again.

He still believes that "consciousness makes all things happen; you

are consciousness, so you can draw wealth towards you."

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> For those who are interested, I have an article that goes into this

in a bit more depth:

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> http://www.nonduality.com/goode2.htm#prereq

>

> Hari OM!

>

> --Greg"

 

I too got into the seeking mode ( as i suspect everyone at the time

of starting) being baffled by one's battle in the material world.

Even to discharge one's duties, such as ensuring a regular income for

the family, providing for their security etc. one needs grace. Grace

comes by praying and contemplation of the higher. Promise of wealth

or better performance in one's job, miracle cures etc. seem to be

method/lure consciousness adopts to draw the mind towards it.

Consciousness knows that once the mind is thus turned inwards the

promises do not matter anymore.The mind as it merges with

consciousness stops the seeking of material things. Is this a fair

understanding of the mechanism of how seeking is initiated and

progress is guaranteed by consciousness? Or have i tied myself into

knots. Also, my apologies for this short diversion from the teachings

of Shri Atmananda -III subject we are on.

Many pranams all

Sridhar

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At 10:16 AM 11/14/2003 +0000, asridhar19 wrote:

>I too got into the seeking mode ( as i suspect everyone at the time

>of starting) being baffled by one's battle in the material world.

>Even to discharge one's duties, such as ensuring a regular income for

>the family, providing for their security etc. one needs grace. Grace

>comes by praying and contemplation of the higher. Promise of wealth

>or better performance in one's job, miracle cures etc. seem to be

>method/lure consciousness adopts to draw the mind towards it.

>Consciousness knows that once the mind is thus turned inwards the

>promises do not matter anymore.The mind as it merges with

>consciousness stops the seeking of material things. Is this a fair

>understanding of the mechanism of how seeking is initiated and

>progress is guaranteed by consciousness? Or have i tied myself into

>knots. Also, my apologies for this short diversion from the teachings

>of Shri Atmananda -III subject we are on.

>Many pranams all

>Sridhar

 

 

Namaste Sridhar,

 

Thanks for your note.

 

Of course what we *really* want is the end to all desire. This is the "de re"

goal instead of the "de dicto" goal. Anything short of that, and

dissatisfaction is looming around the corner.

 

Your seeking trajectory seems to have been a lot more direct and less confused

than my friends'. Actually, the reverse of theirs!

 

My friends -- what they were conceiving of as the object of their desire was

money, career. Because of the teachings they received, they came to believe

that liberation would provide these things. So the object of their desire

shifted to liberation as the means to their personal ends.

 

In your case, it seems the other way around! It seems like you came to realize

that conventional seeking (family, career) leads on and on. It comes to serve

as a hook for seeking one's true nature. You realized much sooner than my

friends that consciousness was summoning you home, using the temporary

attractions of life to get your attention.

 

Pranams to all,

 

--Greg