Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 In the previous post I have established that for any knowledge to take place ‘knower’ has to be present and prerequisite even for pamaaNa to operate. Therefore he has to be existent entity and conscious entity. That world exist even otherwise is only an assuption subject to confirmation by a consciousness entity. Hence it is called indeterminate. In addition, it is not that object or matter makes conscious entity to arise – that is chaarvaka matam or accidental theory. Concept of time, space and therefore the world, presupposes the existence of conscious entity or observer. Any arguments against this is only like a fellow shouting at the top of his voice “I am dumb, I cannot speak” – the very statement proves the contrary. To disprove my statement a unconscious entity (not by a conscious entity though a unconscious entity) to declare its existence and in that very declaration the statement becomes like our so-called dumb friend. Krishna K has not proved anything - he assumed that the world is there and that is the QED. To prove the world exists, I have to be there to do even QED. The rest is only an assumtion. This becomes more clear when we analyze the concept of space and time. I have started categorically that these Manjari-s are intended not to prove advaita siddhanta but only clarify the advaita concepts. So all the mails criticizing my posts are mostly centered on establishing why Advaita is wrong how dviata is better. That kind of discussions are beyond the scope of my notes as I have no interest in vaada with any body, besides I find this vaadavali is mostly jalpavaali. Most of the objections of our dvaitin friends are not new and they have been exhaustively answered in many Advaitic books. I find there is clear lack of interest to learn what exactly advaita says and does it match with what they have studied. If one feels that I am not discussing Adviata Vedanta, that is a separate issue, and for that reason only I am posting these series to Advaitin lists as well, so that the experts there can correct me if I am wrong. If I do hear anything that contradicts my statements please rest assured that I will not hesitate to point them to the readers of vAdAvali. Now next Manjari. -------------------- moksha: moksha means freedom and is considered as highest human pursuit in life. ‘Freedom from what?’ is question that props up next. Since nothing is specified with the word, it implies that it is an absolute freedom from all limitations. It becomes essentially freedom from dependence on anything other than oneself, since any dependence on other than oneself is itself a cause for enslavement. ‘aatmanyeva aatmanaa tuShTaH’- A j~naani is the one who revels himself in his own self, says Geeta, and such a j~naani, says Krishna, is the greatest among the bhakta-s. Any dependence on other oneself, makes one to long for that object which is beyond his control since it is other than oneself to long far. In that very longing, there is an inherent assertion that one is an inadequate person or unfulfilled and unhappy without that object. He will get the sense of fulfillment, that is, a sense of adequacy when he gains that object that he is longing for. It is in those moments of fulfillment that we say ‘we are happy’. But experience has shown us that this sense of adequacy or happiness gained is only temporary until another desire props up in the mind for another and/or better object. Fulfillment of any desire is not an end in itself, since it leaves behind further dependence on the objects other than oneself. Thus one get enslaved to ones ‘likes and dislikes’ or ‘raaga –dveshha-s. What one is seeking for is an eternal, unlimited or infinite or unconditional happiness i.e. freedom from all limitations. That can never be gained as long as the sense of inadequacy remains. Therefore moksha cannot anything of the type that one can gain. It is interesting to note that a finite cannot gain infinite or finite cannot become infinite. moksha on the other hand is a freedom from any dependency on anything other than oneself. This can happen only if that ‘oneself’ is itself unlimited and eternal. moksha is therefore cannot come under the category of ‘apraaptasya praaptam’ i.e. gaining what one does not have, for in all such gains there is always a loss and one will be still left with a sense of inadequacy. Therefore it should be of the type of ‘praaptasya praaptam’, gaining what one already has. No one tries to gain what one already has, unless one does not know that he has it already. That is, one is ignorant of what one really is. Ignorance, therefore, becomes the fundamental human problem, if the seeking for moksha is the essential human pursuit in life. moksha is, therefore, not gaining some thing or not going somewhere or not being something other than what one already is. This is because in any one of these, there is always a loss in the gain, or dependence on something other than oneself, leaving one bound or leaving one with a sense of inadequacy or lack of freedom. Unfortunately one cannot accept the fact that no finite gain will make him an adequate person that he wants to be. Longing for adequacy seems to be inherent desire that can never stop, even if one wants. Hence all pursuits in life, pravRitti or nivRitti, that is gaining something that one likes and getting rid of something one dislikes, is ultimately only towards this one end; to reach a state of mind where one feels that he has gained all that need to be gained, and that he is now a full and complete or an adequate person. That state can never be reached by any pursuit since by definition all pursuits are limited and limited pursuits can give only limited results. Series of limited pursuits still give series of limited results and cannot sum up to infinite result. Man therefore remains as an inadequate person in spite of one life or many lives efforts. When one examines this inconsistency in terms of pursuits versus goal, he becomes mumukshu, seeker of moksha, or seeker of absolute freedom. Hence the scripture says .. pariiksha lokan karma chitaan brahmano ... >From the very definition of absolute freedom, we rule out all concepts of moksha that are contradictory to the definition. These contradictory concepts include, notion of eternal dependence (sesha-seshii bhaava), or one is in eternal service of the Lord etc., which are essentially concepts arising from Bhakti philosophy. Eternal and infinite happiness with limitations is self-contradictory and is like absolute freedom while being an enternal slave. We also dismiss the notions that moksha is somewhere (viakunTa or kailaasa, etc), unless that somewhere includes everywhere or infinite. Since moksha is somewhere else and not here and not now but after death etc, such concepts by mere exclusion of here and now, become self- limited. And that contradicts moksha which is freedom from all limitations. To be more specific moksha excludes any spatial or temporal concepts (in that sense even here and now if those involve constraints of space and time should also be excluded), since absolute freedom is absolute in all respects. Vedanta in fact points out to the seeker of moksha that ‘tat tvam asi’ or ‘you are that’, meaning you are an adequate person that you are longing for. Therefore it is praaptasya praaptam and not apraaptasya praaptam. Therefore ‘aham brahmaasmi’ should be the correct understanding of oneself. That understanding leaves one as sthithaH praj~naa - ‘prajaahati yaadaa kaamaan sarvaan paartha mano gataan, ‘aatmanyeva aatmanaa tushTaH’ sublimating all the desires in the mind with the knowledge of oneself that one is already full and complete. He, therefore, revels himself in himself. That is, he does not depend on anything other than himself since he has understood that ‘the self that he is, is an adequate self beyond any spacial or temporal limitations – ‘aham brahma asmi – I am the totality’. Once we understand the nature of moksha that it is freedom from all limitations, that is it is limitless absolute, any definition of that infinite falls short of infinite, and any description (description of any thing can only be in terms of qualifications or attributes – these aspects are discussed more elaborately later) is not really a definition of infinite but only a description to dismiss any or all finite as not the total. In principle, the language fails in pointing that which cannot be pointed. Hence Vedaanta uses a methodology what Advaita calls as ‘adhyaaruupa apavaada’ to take the students in steps to go beyond the limitations of words. It is like using a pole to go beyond the pole. Using the finite word to go beyond the words by implication. Hence one can see why Veda-s classify them as lower knowledge only since higher knowledge we are referring is beyond any finite words to speak. A correct interpretation of the Vedic statements, therefore, becomes an essential ingredient. Hence the emphasis for proper teacher who is trained by his teacher, how to teach. Hence a guruparampara and sampradaaya are also emphasized in the tradition. Thus, infinitely infinite (if such a word can be coined) should be the one which is free from all limitations since any limitation make it not infinite. One cannot gain therefore moksha, nor can it be given, since infinite can neither be gained nor given. Thus when scripture says “it is the Lord that gives one moksha’ or ‘one has to gain the knowledge’ - it should be correctly understood that it is not of the type of ‘apraptasya praaptam’, since those gains and knowledge will still leave one inadequate or limited. It should be of the type of ‘praaptasya praaptam’ that is gaining what one already ‘has’. Therefore it cannot be knowledge of any thing other than oneself, since anything other than oneself involves a gain and necessarily becomes finite and therefore not moksha. –Hence Vedanta says “ayam aatma brahma”, this self is brahman. It is a realization of what one is or self-realization that ‘aham brahmaasmi” I am the brahman. Hence it is not gaining or becoming but by re-cognizing what one already is by re- analyzing who that aham or ‘I’ is. Therefore aatma vichaara, enquiring about oneself, is not different from brahma vichaara, inquiring into Brahman. The knowledge should culminate as ‘aham brahmaasmi’ and the ‘brahma vit brahma eva bhavati’ – I am that Brahman and knower of Brahman becomes Brahman. Since I have pre-conceived notions about myself due to lack of correct or incomplete knowledge of oneself, scripture becomes a pramaaNa to teach me what I am really. The vision of scripture about myself is different from the notion of myself about myself. Since these notions are deep rooted that have been carried through endless past lives, the mind requires an adequate preparation or adhikaaritvam to ‘own’ this knowledge. Hence yoga becomes a means for purification of the mind so that adequately prepared mind can grasp the essential truth expounded by the shaastra-s. Yoga only prepares the mind or integrates the mind but is not a means for knowledge. Since the knowledge involves knowledge of oneself which is self-existing and eternal and unlimited, any means has to be direct and immediate (aparoksha), just as seeing the fruit in ones own hand. This aspect will be discussed later. Brahman: Brahman comes from the root ‘bRih’ meaning growing or expanding, or that which is big. We know that big is an adjective that qualifies a noun. Interestingly the adjuctive big also gets qualified by the noun that it qualifies. When we say, that is a big mountain and this is a big mosquito, bigness of the mountain is obviously different from the bigness of the mosquito. If we need to refer to that which is bigger than ‘any thing’ that we know, if it is bigger than the biggest that can ever be possible, or essentially it is unqualifiedly big, we need a new word. To accomplish that, the adjective big itself is made into a noun – and that is what Brahman implies. Upanishad talks about as infinite is Brahman -‘anantam brahma’ or ekam eva advitiiyam, one without a second, etc. Essentially it is unlimited in all dimensions, without any distinctions that qualifies it like saajaati, vijaati swagata bheda-s. Therefore Brahman means infiniteness or absolutely infinite. In mathematics we are familiar with many types of infinities. For example we say two parallel lines meet at infinity or irrational numbers like pi can have infinite series. But all these infinities are limited. Parallel lines are separated by a finite distance and pi is less than 4. When we say Brahman, the word therefore implies that it is absolutely infinite or unqualifiedly big or undefinably big. These terms are not qualifications or descriptions or definitions to indicate what Brahman is, but they are used only to negate all that can be qualified as not Brahman. Otherwise one cannot think or talk of absolute infinity using words which are limited. In that sense scriptures also uses the words that imply this unqualified absolute infiniteness and the implied words are not descriptors or definers or attributes of Brahman but only excluders that separate any conceptualization entities as Brahman. The word Parabrahman is also used to emphasize that it is supreme or absolute not that there is another aparabrahman to separate it from. Scriptures defines Brahman as sat chit ananda swaruupam or satyam, j~naanam and anatam brahma. Before we analyze these words, it is important to understand the meaning of swaruupa and tatasta lakshaNas. Some theories have accounted Brahman as all pervading or infinite reality but have internal entities that are different from Brahman. They give following examples for illustration: 1) It is like space that is all pervading and yet mountains and rivers which are different and distinct from space yet are in space. 2) It is like red hot iron ball. The heat that is all pervading the iron ball is different from the iron ball. Similarly the Brahman can be all pervading infinity and still be different from jiiva and jagat. Jiiva and jagat are in Brahman just as mountain is in space. Similar view is also taken by Bhagavaan Ramanuja where he considers in addition to the above that jiiva and jagat form attributes of Brahman, and hence inseparable from Brahman. We reject all these concepts for several reasons. First, attributes are not substantives. ‘That is so’ is an assumption than a fact. If these are attributes of Brahman, then Brahman itself becomes substantive for jiiva and jagat. That reduces to advaitic concept. If the attributes such as jiiva-s and jagat have their own substantives, and the substantive of Brahman is different from those of jiiva and jagat, then one substantive limits the other and Brahman ceases to be Brahman. If Brahman is the material cause for both jagat and jiiva-s, then it is acceptable that Brahman can be substantive for both. Then that excludes the inertness of jagat and separateness of jiiva and concepts converge back to advaitic nature of reality. In addition, a) space is not the material cause for the mountains and rivers and heat is not the material cause for iron ball. They do not arise from the space, sustained by the space and go back in to space. b) Mountain and rivers etc are distinct from space unlike the waves in the water, which arise from water, sustained by water and go back into water. Space only accommodates mountain and rivers. Brahman does not accommodate jiiva and jagat in him since scripture clearly points out that ‘sarvam khalvidam brahma, neha naanaasti kinchana’ – idam, that is, this entire universe is nothing but Brahman and there is nothing else. That ‘pot-space is not different from a total space’ is a valid statement but ‘pot is not different from space’ is not a valid statement. Nor ‘pot’ can be an attribute of Brahman. If Brahman is different from jiiva and jagat like space is different from mountains then Brahman ceases to be an absolute limitlessness since it gets limited by the very fact that moutains are different from Brahman. There is a mutual exclusion, and accommodation does not exclude one from the other. Therefore we conclude that in the absolute infiniteness or limitless existence ‘swagata bheda-s’ or internal differences cannot exist. VishishhTadvaita overcomes this objection by saying that Brahman is all inclusive and that jiiva and jagat are like attributes of Brahman. This attribute-substantive relationship may cause several other problems, which we may take up later. It is suffice here to say that attributes are definable and distinguishable entities that identifies an object. Attributed Brahman reduces to an object, because of the attributes. Hence Brahman becomes finite and limited, and therefore Brahman ceases to be Brahman. For the same reason, then satyam, j~naanam, anatam are not attributes of Brahman either since attributes objectifies the Brahman. Scripture provides three beautiful examples to explain the cause-effect relationship in the creation. If Brahman is the cause as the taTasta lakshaNa indicates (yatova imaani bhuutani jaayante .....), the relation between the universe and the material cause Brahman is similar to – (Ch. U.) yathaa soumya... a) ekena lohamaNinaa ... b) ekena mRitpindena .... and c) ekena nakha nikRintanena ... Just as a)Gold is the material cause for the ornaments – gold remains as gold yet gold pervades all the ornaments. Ornaments appear to be different from one another, each ornament has its own attributes that distinguishes one ornament from the other (such as size shape, utility or kriya etc ), but none of those attributes belong to gold. Ornaments arise from gold, sustained by gold and go back into gold. Gold that is pervading ornaments is not like space pervading the mountain where mountain is different and distinct from space although space accommodates the mountain. Material cause implies that ornament is nothing but gold and gold alone – ring, bangle etc are only naama and ruupa (name and form) but gold has not undergone any transformation in ‘becoming’ the ornaments. In reality, gold has not really become anything since it remains as gold. There are no two things here – gold plus ornament – gold is the ornament yet gold differs from ornament since all the attributes belong to the ornament and not to gold. That is exactly the relation between the cause and the effect in terms of Brahman and the jagat. There are no distinctions of ring, bangle, necklace in gold. Gold remains gold without undergoing any mutation, yet ring is different from bangle and necklace. When scripture says, gold is ‘antaryaami’ in dweller of ring and bangle and at the same time it says that gold is pervading all the ornaments such as the ring and the bangle, it only means that ring and bangle are nothing but gold and gold alone. There is no separate substantives for ring and bangle or bracelet other than gold, yet ring is different from bangle different from necklace. These distinctions are only superficials associated with ruupa and naama, form and name and their associated utilities. The relation between ornaments and gold is not like the relation between attributes and the substantive as Ramanuja extends for jiiva, jagat for Brahman. Ornament is only a taTasta lakshNa for gold. It is not an attribute inseparable from gold. Bangle can be destroyed to make into ring or necklace without destroying the substantives gold. On the other hand, according to vishishhtadvaita, the jiiva-s and jagat are eternal and hence cannot be destroyed, while retaining Brahman. To reinforce this concept, scripture provides two more similar examples – just as the mud pots from mud or just as a nail cutter from black iron. We cannot but solute those sages who are so precise in their definitions. They are able to communicate that which is beyond any communication using examples that we are all familiar. Interestingly all these examples emphasize the material cause to emphasize that Brahman is the material cause in addition to the intelligent cause, as it is easier to point out the former than the later. Krishna reinforces this concept in B.G IX- 4and 5. mayaa tatamidam sarvam jagadavyakta muurthina, masthaani sarvabhuutani na chaaham teshu avasthitaH|| na cha mastaani bhuutaani pasyame yogamaishvaram| bhuutabhRinna ca bhuutastho mamaatmaa bhuutabhaavanaH|| I pervade this entire universe in an unmanifested form. All beings are in me, but I am not in them. Yet I am not involved in their mutations. I am in them but they are not in me. Look at my glory. – It is like gold saying that I am in all of the ornaments but they are not in me in the sense that their mutations, modifications, their attributes, birth and death, and utilities do not belong to me. Look at my glory. They do not affect me. Tatasta LakshNa: Tatasta lakshaNa is an incidental qualification. The classical example for tatasta lakshaNa is ‘That house where a crow is sitting right now is Devadatta’s house’. Devadatta’s house may not have anything to do with crow but it is convenient tool to identify Devadatta’s house which cannot be otherwise identified. After saying that one has to inquire into the nature of Brahman, sage Badarayana uses the tastalakshaNa for brahman in his Brahmasuutra-s– janmaadyasya yataH – Brahman is that which is the material cause for Brahman taking the Taittiriiya U. sloka “yatova imaani bhuutani jaayante, yena jaataani jiivanti yatpraym tyabhisam viSanti” – that from which the whole world arose, by which it is sustained and into which it goes back – is brahman – This is a tatashalaksaNa for Brahman, as creation is not necessary qualification for Brahman, since even before creation Brahman was there. Essentially we define a tatasta lakshaNa is that which is neither necessary nor sufficient qualification to define an entity as an entity. Why Badaraayana chose this lakshaNa to define Brahman (remember Brahman, in principle, can not be defined and these are only operational definition) only to accomplish two important aspects 1) to establish that Brahman is also material cause for the jagat or the universe (in addition to, of course, the intelligent cause) and 2) to reject the theories such as sankhya that assumes the achetana or inert or jada prakRiti as the cause for creation. Swaruupa LakshaNa: Swaruupa lakshaNa as the name indicates is that which defines the swaruupa or its intrinsic nature. These are essentially inseparable qualifications of an object that distinguishes an object from rest of the objects in the universe. These are specific necessary qualifications that define an object as what it is. Ring has its swaruupa lakshana that distinguishes it from a bangle – Gold, obviously cannot be swaruupa lakshaNa of either ring or bangle even though they both are made of gold. From the example of ring and bangle, we arrive at a definition for swaruupa lakshna. It is that distinguishing ‘feature’ or features or attributes (substantive like gold is therefore excluded) of an object that separates or distinguishes that object from the rest of the objects in the universe. Form, shape, utility and therefore a name, for a ring are distinctly different from those for a bangle. The material cause can become swaruupa lakshaNa if it helps in separating object A from object B, that is if they are made of two different or distinct materials. If there are two pots, one made of gold and the other made of clay, the material cause becomes of the distinguishing feature that separates object – one is gold pot (object A) and the clay pot (object B). But if the material cause is the same for both, then that cannot be a feature to distinguish one object from other. Therefore material cause ceases to become a swaruupa lakshaNa for the two objects in question. Is there a swaruupa lakshNa for Brahman? In principle, there cannot be any, since swaruupa lakshNa is that which distinguishes that object from the rest of the objects whose swaruupa lakshaNa-s are exclusive distinguishing feature of those objects. Brahman cannot have a swaruupa lakshaNa since being absolutely infinite it cannot exclude ‘anything’. In other words there is nothing other than Brahman for swaruupa lakshaNa to operate ( i.e to make it distinguishable from the surroundings). It follows therefore that only a ‘thing’ can have a swaruupa lakshna that distinguishes it from other ‘thing-s’. If Brahman includes all things, since it cannot exclude any ‘thing’, then all swaruupa lakshaNa-s should be inclusive in Brahman. Then all inclusive definition is essentially a trivial or useless definition. Or it is also not incorrect to say that all swaruupa lakshaNa-s of all objects should be excluded in the swaruupa lakshaNa of Brahman. Let us take a simple example to illustrate the point. If there is a white cow, a black cow and a brown cow, swaruupa lakshaNa of a cow should exclude all these specific colors- white, black or brown colors per sec but only pick up that which remains as common factor for all the cows that distinguishes a cow from, say, a horse. This does not mean that cow cannot be white or black or brown but it only means that it need not be of any particular color. It can be any combinations of all the colors. Hence it only means that any particular color is excluded as a specific qualification of a cow. Applying this logic, if Brahman includes ‘everything’ then it should exclude all the contradictory swaruupa lakshaNas of each and every object in the universe and only take that which is common for all objects that are discovered and yet to be discovered. Is there a swaruupa lakshaNa that is common for all objects that can be used as swaruupa lakshNa for Brahman – just as we were searching a common feature for white cow, black cow and brown cow, as swaruupa lakshNa for any cow. Obviously, we get into an inherent contradiction here. We have defined swaruupa lakshaNa of any object as that which distinguishes from other objects. Therefore there cannot be any swaruupa lakshna that can be common for two objects yet distinguishes one from the other. One can still pick up a common feature of two objects, object A and object B, leaving aside their distinguishing features that are mutually exclusive (swaruupa lakshaNa-s). Since both objects exist (that is why we are comparing the two), we can say ‘existence’ itself is a common feature for both. It is not swaruupa lakshaNa of either object A or object B but it is common feature of both object A and object B. Now if we include ‘every-thing’ or all objects in the entire universe or universe itself (that includes space, time etc.) – At least one common feature is they all exist or the universe exists. ‘Existence’ is definitely the only common feature, recognizing that it is not swaruupa lakshna of any particular object or all objects per sec. Since Brahman includes ‘everything’ and can not exclude ‘anything’, it follows that ‘existence’ itself can be considered as swaruupa lakshaNa, or at least as all inclusive common factor, recognizing that it is not specific enough to distinguish ‘any one thing, from any other thing’, besides the fact that there is no other thing than Brahman to distinguish it from. It is incorrect to argue, therefore, that ‘sat’ is a distinguishing feature of Brahman or quality of Brahman, since it is not a feature that separates it from any other object in the universe. One cannot also say that it separates from non-existence and since for it to separate from non-existence, that non-existence should first exist, and if it exists then it is no more non-existence. Thus, we may use the term ‘swaruupa lakshaNa’ of Brahman only to separate from the tatashta lakshaNa of Brahman. However, if we examine correctly, Brahman cannot have swaruupa lakshaNa either, in fact cannot have any lakshaNa if it is all inclusive, as the very word Brahman signifies. Then what is ‘sat’ in the sat chit ananda, if it is not a quality of Brahman? And what is the purpose of defining Brahman in that way when Brahman cannot be defined at all. These are valid questions that need to be explored further. We deduced above that only common factor for all objects that exist in the entire universe that are discovered or yet to be discovered is only the fact that they all exist. Existence or ‘sat’ is therefore the only an essential ingredient that is all-inclusive in all objects (that is, no object is excluded from the existence ‘feature’). Now, if an object A undergoes some transformation to object B, one thing that definitely does not change in this transformation and remains common for both is that ‘existence’ feature. Existent object A has become existent object B. Existence has not undergone any change while object A transforms to object B. Later in future it may become existent object C or existent object D etc. Therefore object A or object B, C or D are all temporal (time bound) but existence feature is not temporal. An important feature of jagat or universe is the continuous change or continuos flux and we define jagat as ‘jaayate – gachcchate iti jagat’, that which comes and goes. Essentially it means that objects continuously change, space-wise, time-wise as well as other swaruupa lakshaNa-s wise. Since every object has an existence as a basic factor, in all these changes only entity that does not undergo any change is the ‘existence’ itself in all objects– that is their ‘sat’ aspect. We now arrive at a definition for ‘sat’ or ‘satyam’ – it is that changeless entity in all changes – since change defines a time – sat is that which is beyond the time concept and for convenience we can provide an operational definition for sat or satyam as ‘trikaala abaadhitam satyam’, that which remains the same in all three periods of time; past, present and future. Krishna says the same thing in Geeta ‘naabhaavo vidyate satH’, the existence can never cease to exist. Since Brahman cannot also undergo any change or mutation (immutable)–and existence is only factor that is common factor in all mutants and mutations that itself does not go any mutation, and is all inclusive factor in all objects whether they change or not, ‘sat’ or existence itself is THE appropriate word that Vedanta uses to define that which is not definable. Using this framework we will next define what is real, unreal and mithya. ===== What you have is His gift to you and what you do with what you have is your gift to Him - Swami Chinmayananda. New Photos - easier uploading and sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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