Guest guest Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 Namaste: Let us welcome back Colette to the list. We can look forward to Colette's active participation again in the list discussions with thoughtful questions and comments, Warmest regards, --- White Rainbow <white_rainbow wrote: Hi everyone greetings. I think some of you may remember me. I enjoyed my former days at advaitin. I come back to enquire about rishi devata & chhandas & their interrelationship or unity, & how they work together in creation. I thought some members here might give me some new insights into how they see this. My own journey has been more visual lately & not exploring through words what is. Now though, I would likt to ask about these ones. I would like the meanings for each of these words & any quotes which may elaborate, or hint at deeper meanings, & even personal intuitions. The path I trod simply explained them as knower, process of knowing, & object of knowing. I guess I would like to explore where absolute & relative are in relation to these terms. Also I remember there seemed to be a focus on rishi as more important than the other two. In unity would there be that? What do you think? Thankyou, Colette Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. ===== Advaitin List Moderators Suggestions/comments from members are always welcome. Please forward them to the email address: advaitins Webspace: advaitin Bulletin Board: http://www.escribe.com/culture/advaitin/bb/index.html New Photos - easier uploading and sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 ------------------------------- > > Hi everyone greetings. > > I think some of you may remember me. ..... .. The path I trod simply explained > them as knower, process of knowing, & object of > knowing. I guess I would like to explore where > absolute & relative are in relation to these terms. > Colette Dear Colette - Welcome back. I am in the processing writing Advaita Manjari - So far four parts have been posted. The rest are in the making. In this series, I will be examining the epistemological issues from the advaitic perspectives - knower, known and knowing process with relative vs absolute knowledge will be dealt with to the degree I understand. Hari OM! Sadananda ===== What you have is His gift to you and what you do with what you have is your gift to Him - Swami Chinmayananda. New Photos - easier uploading and sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 > --- White Rainbow <white_rainbow@h...> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone greetings. > > I think some of you may remember me. > > I enjoyed my former days at advaitin. I come back to > enquire about rishi devata & chhandas & their > interrelationship or unity, & how they work together > in creation. I thought some members here might give me > some new insights into how they see this. > > My own journey has been more visual lately & not > exploring through words what is. Now though, I would > likt to ask about these ones. I would like the > meanings for each of these words & any quotes which > may elaborate, or hint at deeper meanings, & even > personal intuitions. The path I trod simply explained > them as knower, process of knowing, & object of > knowing. I guess I would like to explore where > absolute & relative are in relation to these terms. > Also I remember there seemed to be a focus on rishi as > more important than the other two. In unity would > there be that? What do you think? > > Thankyou, > > Colette in Talks with Shri Ramana Maharshi [Talk 17], about the rishis you can read: "D.: How long did it take Maharshi to realise the Self? M: This question is asked because the name and form are perceived. These are the perceptions consequent on the identification of the ego with the gross body. If the ego identifies itself with the subtle mind, as in dream, the perceptions are subtle also. But in sleep there are no perceptions. Was there not the ego still? Unless it was, there cannot be the memory of having slept. Who was it that slept? You did not say in your sleep that you slept. You say it now in your wakeful state. The ego therefore is the same in wakefulness, dream and sleep. Find out the underlying Reality behind these states. That is the Reality underlying these. In that state there is Being alone. There is no you, nor I, nor he; no present, nor past, nor future. It is beyond time "and space, beyond expression. It is ever there. Just as a plantain tree produces shoots at its roots, before yielding fruits and perishing, and these shoots, being transplanted, do the same again, so also the original primeval Master of antiquity (Dakshinamurti), who cleared the doubts of his rishi disciples in silence, has left shoots which are ever multiplying. The Guru is a shoot of that Dakshinamurti. The question does not arise when the Self is realised." the question does not arise when the Self is realised and later in Talk 164 he says: "If you understand your own reality then that of the rishis and masters will be clear to you. There is only one master and that is the Self." eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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