Guest guest Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 Found this additional passage from Shri Atmananda that will help answer earlier questions about perception, perceivers and a world. Is there a world independent of perception? >From ATMA NIRVRITI, Chapter 3. "Seeing and Hearing." I Unless there is seeing, there is no form. Form has no independent existence and is therefore the seeing itself. II If form is itself seeing, how can one see a form? Therefore what is seen is not form but something different. III Likewise objects of the other senses are also mere sense perception. IV Because hearing is itself sound, no one hears a sound. This truth applies generally to all sense-objects. V If therefore a searching enquiry is made to know what it is that is really perceived, it will be found that it is the Absolute Reality itself. VI If it is the Absolute Reality that is perceived, how can the illusion of a world exist thereafter? Pranams, --Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 --- Gregory Goode <goode wrote: > Found this additional passage from Shri Atmananda that will help > answer earlier questions about perception, perceivers and a world. Is > there a world independent of perception? Beautiful Greg. This is exactly what one arrives at by the analysis of immediacy of the perception since both object and the subject are within the consciousness. The substantive of the object is nothing but consciousness alone. Amit goswami was trying to arrive using quantum mechanics that the world is inderminate. But even to say it is inderminate a conscious entity has to solve the quantum mechanical problem. The whole book 'dRik dRisya viveka' is centered on this topic. Hari OM! Sadananda ===== What you have is His gift to you and what you do with what you have is your gift to Him - Swami Chinmayananda. New Photos - easier uploading and sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 At 12:40 PM 12/22/2003 -0800, kuntimaddi sadananda wrote: >Beautiful Greg. > >This is exactly what one arrives at by the analysis of immediacy of the >perception since both object and the subject are within the >consciousness. The substantive of the object is nothing but >consciousness alone. I agree that this is what one arrives at by analysis of perception. It's one reason I like Shri Atmananda's approach so much. >Amit goswami was trying to arrive using quantum >mechanics that the world is inderminate. But even to say it is >inderminate a conscious entity has to solve the quantum mechanical >problem. Yes, it seems the long way about. And of course there's the entity that stands as evaluator of the result. >The whole book 'dRik dRisya viveka' is centered on this topic. A good one! Pranams, --Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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