Guest guest Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 Hi Madathilji, You mention this sentence, "I know but I know not that I know." Simply removing that "not" would result in "I know and I know that I know." But the kind of knowledge and lack of surprise is not a knowledge "that ..." It's just knowledge. Given your sentence as a strating point, I'd say it's more like the falling away of the clause that starts with "but"... Pranams, --Greg On 12/25/03 00:02 am "Madathil Rajendran Nair" (madathilnair) wrote: Namaste Gregji. Let me put it this way. I know but I know not that I know. Am I right? The whole thing means the removal of that 'not'. Isn't that the reason there is no surprise in that realization? PraNAms. Madathil Nair _______________________ advaitin, Gregory Goode <goode@D...> wrote: > > >4. Isn't contemplation on the Truth (without any thought for what > >may happen or follow) sufficient during the pre-sleep moments? > > Yes, for example, contemplating the truth that Brahman is the substance of thoughts, between thoughts and beyond thoughts. Contemplating the truth that between thoughts is not a nihilistic void but consciousness itself. Contemplating that deep sleep is in effect a gap between thoughts. With these contemplations and investigations, deep sleep will come to be seen as consciousness itself. Deep sleep will no longer be experienced as a surprise, or as a loss or a veil. Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of Atman and Brahman. Advaitin List Archives available at: <a href="http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/" target="NewWin">http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/</a> To Post a message send an email to : advaitin Messages Archived at: <a href="advaitin/messages" target="NewWin">advaitin/messages</a> <a href="advaitin/" target="NewWin">advaitin/</a> advaitin Your <a href="" target="NewWin"></a> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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