Guest guest Posted December 27, 2003 Report Share Posted December 27, 2003 Dear Benjamin, In your message (20166) of 16 Dec, you wrote: "... frankly, it does seem to me that 'nonduality' is logically the same as 'monism', in some sense, but perhaps I am being too prosaic." Here, I would say that you are not being 'prosaic' enough, if by 'prosaic' one means 'dispassionately analytical and skeptical'. Prosaically, 'non-duality' means just what it says. It refers to a dispassionate examination of the idea that there is any second thing which is different from that which knows. And the examination points to a fatal flaw in any such idea of a second thing. The problem is that knowing any second thing implies a mediating action between that which knows and that which is known. That mediating action is called 'mind'. It is a differentiating action that distinguishes a second thing which is conceived to be apart from consciousness. And in doing so, it necessarily implies a further distinction -- of its own differentiating action, as a third thing which is different both from consciousness that knows and from the second thing that's known. In Sanskrit, this differentiating action is called 'vijnyana' or 'discernment'. The prefix 'vi-' means 'differentiating' or 'apart', and 'jnyana' means 'knowing'. So 'vijnyana' implies the differentiating action of 'discerning' or 'knowing apart'. And once this differentiating action is conceived, as mediating between consciousness and a differentiated object, the very nature of the action goes on to differentiate itself as a third something. And from there, further things are differentiated as fourth and fifth and sixth, and so on and on. So, the very nature of the mind is to imagine differentiated ideas that inherently keep multiplying their imagined differentiation, indefinitely. The result is an indefinite and indeterminate confusion that we call a 'world' or a 'universe'. In short, the mind and each one of its ideas are inherently a mess. This is said from the plain, prosaic view of skeptical analysis. It's from such a prosaic analysis that advaitins are skeptical of 'idealism'. In particular, they are skeptical of the phrase 'idealist monism'. For all the mind's ideas inherently imply a multiplication of diversity. So long as 'one' remains an idea, it implies 'two' and 'three' and 'four' and hence more and more diversity. So long as terms like 'consciousness' or 'all' or 'nothing' represent ideas, they too stand for an inherent mess of confused and indeterminate diversity. For an advaitin, no grand statement like 'All is consciousness' can be enough, so long as that statement is a matter of poetic imagination or of any ideation or belief in mind. To find what's ultimately true, the mind and every one of its ideas have to be left completely and utterly behind. And that is achieved by turning the idea of 'discernment' or 'vijnyana' back upon itself, so as to attain a complete dispassion. As discernment analyses itself, it turns out that its differentiating action is not the true nature of knowledge. The differentiating action of so-called 'discernment' is not knowledge at all, but only an objective action of one imagined object upon another. Here, the mind is no more than an object that is imagined to be discerning another object of imagination. And the imagination is inherently false, because it wrongly identifies this objective imagination with subjective knowing. It wrongly imagines that its partial act of imagined differentiation can amount to consciousness, which is the subjective light of true knowing. No amount of poetic imagination, no matter how high-flying, can correct this mistake, so long as even the slightest trace of name or form or quality remains conceived or perceived or felt by any slightest hint of mental activity. It's only when imagined picturing is utterly dissolved that true poetry is reached. As Tennyson puts it in the poem 'Ulysses', even the poetic way is: To follow knowledge like a sinking star, beyond the utmost bound of human thought. In order to correct the mistaken confusion of mental differentiation with illuminating consciousness, advaita proceeds by clarifying the mind's confused duality. All dualistic acts of mind are analytically examined and shown to be objective acts, belonging to what is known. In effect, this examination shows that the mind keeps cheating, in its application of duality. The mind applies a double standard -- one for its investigation of objects that it thinks are 'outside' its knowing, and another for privileged ideas and intuitions that get taken for granted as 'inside'. The investigation is thus incomplete; and it stays compromised by unexamined assumptions. To complete the investigation, all ideas and intuitions are treated as 'outside' -- in the sense that they are no longer to be left unquestioned within. They are then treated as manifesting acts of mind, and hence they are included in the 'objective' realm of questionable manifestation. So long as the slightest cheating remains, whereby some mental act of ideation or intuition remains exempt from questioning, that manifesting act remains mistakenly confused with the pure knowing of consciousness. And so a compromising and confused duality remains as well. Thus, advaita proceeds through a completely thorough distinction between what knows and what gets known. That which knows is pure consciousness, unmixed with any change or difference. That which gets known is a differentiated world of changing activity, including all objects and ideas that are perceived and conceived through body and through mind. As that distinction is fully made, it completes the duality of knowing subject and known object. In doing so, it utterly dissolves the manifesting mind, which previously appeared to go out in a partial and confused way towards perceived and conceived objects. As the mind dissolves, it is reflected back, into its originating consciousness. Pure consciousness alone remains, as the sole reality of all objective appearances. Thus, in the end, through a completion of mind's duality, it turns out that what knows is in truth identical with what is known. Hence the name 'advaita' or 'non-duality'. The name indicates a final resolution that is approached, paradoxically, through a completion of the duality between what knows and what is known. You went on to ask: "Well, if you don't remember deep sleep, and if all that you write and say is done during the waking state, then how can you talk about it at all? Again, I am perhaps being too dull and prosaic..." The basic question here is how we know the experience of deep sleep. Since the mind does not appear in deep sleep, its experience is not known by mind. In particular, that experience cannot be known through the mental act of remembering an occurrence in the past. And so you ask, if it is not remembered from the past, how can it be spoken of now? The answer is very simple. The same experience that was present in deep sleep is still present now. It is present as the non-dual truth of consciousness, which has no object other than itself. For consciousness is just that principle whose very being is to know. Its knowing is no act towards something else, but just a self-illumination that is identical with what it always is. That is a self-illuminating knowledge in identity -- which each of us knows, by simply being what it is. In the waking and dream states, that simple knowing is confused by falsely believing that it is an activity of mind towards objects and ideas. From the deep sleep state, no such activity is remembered. So in speaking of experience of the deep sleep state, a question is inherently raised, about a knowing that is utterly unmixed with any mental activity. That knowing is each person's true identity, experienced always in the living present, beneath all ideas of changing time. In speaking of deep sleep, attention is reflected there, to one's own non-duality, which each one of us shares in common with all else. Deep sleep is thus a natural symbol of that non-duality, for anyone who can throw into question our habitual assumption that knowing is a changing act of physical and mental personality. Finally, you asked about the necessity of a guru: "But what is a guru? Can faith and sincerity substitute for a guru? Must it be a guru of flesh? Must one be an 'official' sanyasin, complete with orange robe? Can attending satsanghs with a good teacher do it? What must be said during these satsanghs? Must the teacher specifically choose you for grace, at least silently in his own mind, or is it enough that he simply be speaking on the right topic to any general audience?" And here I can at last say that I think you are being much too prosaic. You are trying to reduce to petty rules what can't at all be ruled by mind. A final teacher must be one who acts from beyond the mind, and so it is absurd for you and me to speak of rules by which such a teacher must be governed. Better instead to keep on asking what is true; and leave the rest to truth beyond the mind, however it may come to be expressed, in course of time. Ananda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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