Guest guest Posted January 1, 2004 Report Share Posted January 1, 2004 Namaste, Here is a small but select site which rates spiritual teachers. I do not recognize all the names, but the ones I do seem to be properly ordered, with 'Advaitin' type ones at the top http://www.spiritualteachers.org/ratings.htm In particular, here is someone I never heard of called Bob Cergol. I still don't know much about him, but he caught my interest because he seemed to have an 'Advaitin' experience all on his own (like Peace Pilgrim who is also here and has been recommended by Sadaji). http://www.spiritualteachers.org/bob_cergol.htm The following is a brief but interesting quote from this link which shows what I mean. These Advaitin experiences happen all over the world to all kinds of people. "An intensity of awareness built until at some instant the entire world -- including ME -- was OUT THERE -- part of the view. Yet there was no dichotomy because this awareness also CONTAINED the whole view, the totality. In that instant I saw there was NO DEATH -- because there was NOTHING TO DIE! In that instant I saw the equality of all beings, their essential unity -- they were all manifestations from the same ground." Hari Om! Benjamin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2004 Report Share Posted January 1, 2004 --- Benjamin <orion777ben wrote: > > "An intensity of awareness built until at some instant the entire > world -- including ME -- was OUT THERE -- part of the view. Yet there > was no dichotomy because this awareness also CONTAINED the whole > view, the totality. In that instant I saw there was NO DEATH -- > because there was NOTHING TO DIE! In that instant I saw the equality > of all beings, their essential unity -- they were all manifestations > from the same ground." > > Hari Om! > Benjamin Beautiful Benjamin, But remember, it is not experince in the normal sense of the world - it is a knowledge firmly established. Even if you observe Bhagavaan Ramana, he had that unique experience at home when he felt experience of the death. But subsequently he contemplated on that state many years until he got firmly established as natural state - hence he calls it as 'dRiDhaiva nishhTaa' - firm abidence in that knowledge of 'I am' period. Ignorance is the problem, knowledge alone is alone is the remedy and experience of oneness is the begining for knowledge as one analyses that oneness of the experience as one abides in that oneness. Several meditators do experience sometimes lasting moments of that unique oneness - even the list members can testify for that - but one has to be get firmy established in that oneness of the totality to discard the duality that one perceives subsequently as reality. That is the true knowledge. There is no fear of the duality then since one recognizes that apparent duality is not reality. Hari OM! Sadananda ===== What you have is His gift to you and what you do with what you have is your gift to Him - Swami Chinmayananda. Find out what made the Top Searches of 2003 http://search./top2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 Namaste Sadaji, >Several meditators do experience sometimes lasting >moments of that unique oneness - even the list members >can testify for that - but one has to be get firmy >established in that oneness You are absolutely right. Too many teachers today are making it sound too easy. This may be cheapening the wisdom of Advaita. I think one of the biggest tests is how we deal with suffering. I am afraid! So clearly I an not enlightened. In fact, right now I have an upset stomach over holiday eating. A minor problem, but it is disturbing my mind. However, meditating and reminding myself that I am not the body DOES seem to help a bit. It has a peaceful and calming effect, and the irritation seems to recede a bit. But I'll take a couple of antacids too... Hari Om! Benjamin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2004 Report Share Posted January 2, 2004 --- Benjamin <orion777ben wrote: > You are absolutely right. Too many teachers today are making it > sound too easy. This may be cheapening the wisdom of Advaita. > > I think one of the biggest tests is how we deal with suffering. I am > afraid! So clearly I an not enlightened. In fact, right now I have > an upset stomach over holiday eating. A minor problem, but it is > disturbing my mind. However, meditating and reminding myself that I > am not the body DOES seem to help a bit. It has a peaceful and > calming effect, and the irritation seems to recede a bit. But I'll > take a couple of antacids too... > Benjamin look it this way - everything is in perfect order. Over eating is part of the norm for the holidays. Having stomach is also in order since nature does not like large perturbation from the norm. Taking the antacids will help to restore the system back to equilibrium and therefore that is also in order. Being an true advaitin, looking at the problem as the problem of the body and not yours is also in order. Suffering is only interpretation when one comes out of that adviatic understanding! I donot see any suffering, of course as long as it is your stomach and not mine - Even that statement is in order! Everything sounds beautiful to me! - of course viewing from my seat! Hari OM! Sadananda > Hari Om! > Benjamin > ===== What you have is His gift to you and what you do with what you have is your gift to Him - Swami Chinmayananda. Find out what made the Top Searches of 2003 http://search./top2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Hari OM! PAIN IS INEVITABLE SUFFERING IS OPTIONAL! With Love & OM! Krishna Prasad advaitin, kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada> wrote: > > --- Benjamin <orion777ben> wrote: > > > You are absolutely right. Too many teachers today are making it > > sound too easy. This may be cheapening the wisdom of Advaita. > > > > I think one of the biggest tests is how we deal with suffering. I am > > afraid! So clearly I an not enlightened. In fact, right now I have > > an upset stomach over holiday eating. A minor problem, but it is > > disturbing my mind. However, meditating and reminding myself that I > > am not the body DOES seem to help a bit. It has a peaceful and > > calming effect, and the irritation seems to recede a bit. But I'll > > take a couple of antacids too... > > > > Benjamin look it this way - everything is in perfect order. Over eating > is part of the norm for the holidays. Having stomach is also in order > since nature does not like large perturbation from the norm. Taking the > antacids will help to restore the system back to equilibrium and > therefore that is also in order. Being an true advaitin, looking at the > problem as the problem of the body and not yours is also in order. > Suffering is only interpretation when one comes out of that adviatic > understanding! I donot see any suffering, of course as long as it is > your stomach and not mine - Even that statement is in order! > > Everything sounds beautiful to me! - of course viewing from my seat! > > Hari OM! > Sadananda > > > > Hari Om! > > Benjamin > > > > > ===== > What you have is His gift to you and what you do with what you have is your gift to Him - Swami Chinmayananda. > > > > Find out what made the Top Searches of 2003 > http://search./top2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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