Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Namaste Sri Sadananda, No I have not forgotten about the V.P. note that you requested. I am just now re-reading the chapter on perception which as you know is a very compressed exposition of the advaitic position. It's not the easiest of reads with its double negatives surely a world wide manifestation of academic archness. You cannot not so assert sort of thing. Advise me when you want me to launch a note in conjunction with your Manjari post. To assure that I am paying attention to your posts I have been reading up on the concept of the indeterminate in the philosophy of mathematics. The discussion in the handbook I was reading gave Fermat's Last Theorem and Goldbach's conjecture as examples of the Indeterminate! From there...> critique of the concept on the basis that it violates the Law of the Excluded Middle.....>allied problems in set theory and relation to Cretan Liar paradox....>various attempts at resolution down to Godel's undecidability. Very interesting even if I don't understand it and it is perhaps not relevant to Advaita except perhaps in this regard. Is a statement about everything meaningful if you can't get outside everything (by definitition) to prove at a metalevel what that system cannot prove or disprove? A Story: Some men are discussing a job of an extremely complex and tricky sort. The carpenter who is an ingenious fellow sketches a solution which the plumber proceeds to dissect, analyse and question. The carpenter replies 'Don't ask me so many questions, I don't understand everything I know'! Best Wishes, Michael. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 At 10:50 PM 1/19/2004 +0000, ombhurbhuva wrote: The carpenter replies 'Don't ask me so many questions, I don't understand everything I know'! ===Sounds like that great mystic, Yogi Berra! --Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 --- ombhurbhuva <ombhurbhuva wrote: > Namaste Sri Sadananda, > No I have not forgotten about the V.P. note > that you > requested. I am just now re-reading the chapter on perception which > as you > know is a very compressed exposition of the advaitic position. It's > not > the easiest of reads with its double negatives surely a world wide > manifestation of academic archness. You cannot not so assert sort of > > thing. Advise me when you want me to launch a note in conjunction > with > your Manjari post. Thanks Michael for quick response. I was wondering what happened to you. Yes you are right - the book is in a very condensed form and there have been many commentaries about it to illustrate the points. Take your time. I was only referring to Navyanaaya aruguments presented by Chittaranjanji. Although somewhat abstract, it is good to analyze these and present perspectives some based on our modern science involving perception and consciousness. > > To assure that I am paying attention to your posts I have been > reading up > on the concept of the indeterminate in the philosophy of mathematics. > The > discussion in the handbook I was reading gave Fermat's Last Theorem > and > Goldbach's conjecture as examples of the Indeterminate! From > there...> > critique of the concept on the basis that it violates the Law of the > Excluded Middle.....>allied problems in set theory and relation to > Cretan > Liar paradox....>various attempts at resolution down to Godel's > undecidability. Very interesting even if I don't understand it and > it is > perhaps not relevant to Advaita except perhaps in this regard. Is a > statement about everything meaningful if you can't get outside > everything > (by definitition) to prove at a metalevel what that system cannot > prove or > disprove? > WaH! Michael it looks like you are going with full speed leaving your carpentry! Godel's theorm of undecidablity is very interesting. As the system get complicated the indeterminacy increases! Perhaps we have great mathematicians in this list starting from Prof. VK and Ram Chandran who can educate us on these inderminate problems. Prof. Amit Goswamy refers to Godels theorm a lot in his book. If I remember there were some discussions in the past on this list on Godel's theory. > The carpenter > > replies 'Don't ask me so many questions, I don't understand > everything I > know'! > The carpenter is right on the button to differentiate between understanding and knowing! - I differentiate the two as one at the absolute level and the other relative knowledge based on experience level! - He seems to be an experienced carpenter! Hari OM! Sadananda > Best Wishes, Michael. > > > > Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity > of Atman and Brahman. > Advaitin List Archives available at: > http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ > To Post a message send an email to : advaitin > Messages Archived at: advaitin/messages > > > > ------------------------ Sponsor > > Links > > > advaitin/ > > > advaitin > > Your > > > ===== What you have is His gift to you and what you do with what you have is your gift to Him - Swami Chinmayananda. Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./signingbonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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