Guest guest Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 Namaste Gregoryji, I am prompted by your post and by Benjaminji's heartfelt message to give reign, somewhat freely, to some thoughts on the subject of existence.... The problem of the meaning of "existence" in Western Philosophy is the problem of the loss of meanings in modernity. It is true that the meaning of existence in the dominant threads of Western Philosophy has been as you have elucidated them, but it would be an injustice to Western Philosophy if we do not recognise that there has been an ancient and medieval tradition, which has all but lost its meaning today, in which philosophy tried to uncover the meaning of existence as it lay in the mystical region behind the shadows of appearance. That is the tradition of Eleatic and Platonic philosophy, as it truly was, before its meanings were reified by the restricted interpretations given to it by modern acadamia. It is ironical, in this context, that the establishment of Plato was called the "Academy". The four different uses of the word "existence" that Frege, Russel and others analysed simply do not address the numinous meaning of existence that lies behind the affirmative answer that we are all compelled to give to the question "Does the circle exist?" For here we do not ask whether there is manifested or instantiated the attribute circle in a particular body, but we ask the question with a meaning that penetrates beyond the actualisation of the attribute or body. Such a question and its answer is meaningful, and we all employ it in the languages that we speak. It is the task of philosophy to unravel the meanings behind those locutions that are meaningful, and not to restrict their meanings by artificial definitions as has been done by modern philosophy. The search for clarity in analytical philosophy, for example, is undertaken on the foundations of a meaning of "existence" that is not uncovered, but which is given to analytical philosophy by Frege and Russel while defining its syntactical structures. The meaning of "existence" as "instantiation of objects" was not the result of a philosophical investigation, but the result of a forcing of dogma on to the framework of modern symbolic logic. It fails to include within it the range of meaning that the word "existence" has, as it extends over its meaningful employment. It is because of this restriction that modern philosophy fails to quell the deep noetic unrest within us; it fails to respond to the mystical that lies in the core of our being. It fails to penetrate the surface of the world and restricts us to an understanding of existence as only that which stands revealed to our senses as concrete particulars. But if we go back to the fragments of the "Way of Truth" of Parmenides of Elea, we find a more encompassing meaning of "existence", and one which carries over into the entire Platonic and neo-Platonic tradition until it loses itself in the schism that separates mind and matter, abstract thought and concrete objects, that began with Aristotle and gained dominance somewhere in the course of medieval philosophy. In Parmenides and Plato, there is no such schism, and the meaning of existence is the same meaning that we find in Vishistadvaita, and it is the same meaning that is there in the "real context" of the real-unreal matrix of Maya in Advaita. It is that there cannot be non-being, that all is Being. There is a chronic problem with philosophy today. In some respects, this problem is a legacy of Aristotelian logic. The word "logic" has its roots in the word "logos", and it is logos or language that holds its secrets. Wittgenstein sensed it, but his roots in the analytical system was too strong for him to dive to its secret founts; yet his philosophy remains as a luminescent masterpiece in the twilight of European philosophy. Philosophy, for Socrates, was about learning how to die a deeper death than the mortal deaths we die in our bodies, but modern philosophy has made it into an apology for the romantic desires of man. But now, to return to the question: What is the chronic problem that characterises modern philosophy? We endeavour to discover the secrets of the world. Unfortunately, we also assume, while thus endeavouring, that we have with us the perspicuity of reason to embark on such a venture. This is the problem. We question the world, but we never question this thing called "reason" that we have defined and encapsulated in a formalism. The focal point here is not reason, for there is nothing wrong with reason as such, but with the assumption that we already know what reason is. It has never struck the modern man that we may have to uncover what reason itself is, that both reason and the world are revealed in the one epiphany of revelation; that the unravelment of the secrets of the world may also be the unravelment of logos or reason. Reason is part of the world; it is part of the mind-body continuum, and therefore it is part of the world that is to be unraveled. We can see what reason is only in the perspicuity of knowledge, and knowledge is paradoxically the end of the striving of reason. What a madness this is! What a matrix of Maya! That is why philosophy has no methodical beginning; it must be a darshana. That is why in Indian Philosophy, it is not called philosophy, but a darshana, a vision of revelation. That is why Advaita places reason below perception, and perception below Shruti, in the hierarchy of pramanas. That is why Socrates was the wisest man in all of Greece, because he refused to say what the truth is, and was content to remain a midwife for any man that was pregnant already with knowledge. (It might be appropriate to mention here that the "Way of Truth" was given to Parmenides by the Goddess as a revelation.) Philosophy cannot therefore be progressive as a human science. For it is not a public science, it is the journey of the individual soul. And soon the journeying soul cannot talk the same reason as the people of the world. It has left its worldly home in "the dark night of awakening", and it now proceeds with the light of its own lamp. Its words now become mystical, full with the revealed reason of the light of Truth. It is a reason that unfurls into song to sing the poetry of Existence. It is the reason of the intellect sinking back into the Heart as the self returns to Self. Therefore, it would seem to me - as both Benjaminji and you point out -- that it is the sense of wonder and the whisper of mystery that is our guide more than a reason that is still to be reached and only shines "through the glass darkly". With regards, Chittaranjan advaitin, Gregory Goode <goode@D...> wrote: > About existence in spiritual contexts. > ====================================== > I'm not sure how it feels coming from an Indian background. But coming from a Western background I know what it feels like to want to certify and prove existence. Those (few!) who think about these things want a rock-solid guarantee that there's a logical and metaphysically *MUST* to existence. We don't want that vacant feeling, where there merely *happens to be* something. We want an explanation. We don't want to be left hanging in the air! > > Basically, we want "existence" to do therapeutic work for us. But this can only be done if we use the word in a way that makes no metaphysical sense. Conversely, if we use it the way that does make sense, then the notion of "existence" thins out and cannot do the work we expect from it. > > The only kind of use of the "existence" notion that will give this cozy guarantee-feeling to us is the predicate-use of existence. This is the one that functions like other predicates, adding something to the subject that is not there without its addition. > > Frege-Russell wrote about "is," because it can do the work of "exists." They distinguished 4 different uses: > > 1. Socrates is. (the "is" of existence) > 2. Jennifer Lopez is JLo. (the "is" of identity) > 3. Socrates is wise. (the "is" of predication) > 4. A dog is a canine. (the "is" of inclusion or generic implication) > > For us to get that certified, guaranteed, settled feeling from our spiritual investigations in to existence, we need it to function as a predicate. We need it to act like (3). After (3), you know something about Socrates that you didn't know before. We want to know about the world something more than observation tells us. We want it also to "exist"! > > But as in the article cited earlier (http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/existence), all (3)-like, predicate-like notions of existence are problematic. You can't add to what's there just by speaking it. And our spiritual yearnings are not satisfied by (1)-type uses of "exists." If we were told only things like (1), we'd say, "I already knew that by knowing Socrates." If we were used to (1)-like uses of existence, we wouldn't expect it to do that extra work that predicates do, like (3). That is, we wouldn't ask Leibniz questions of (1) as we do thinking that existence is (3). > > Basically, if it's a predicate, it makes no sense. If it's not a predicate, then it seems vacuous and irrelevant to the spiritual yearnings. > > So why do we expect the predicate-kind-of-use from "exists" as in (3)? Like Wittgenstein and others (Berkeley 200 years before him) have said, we are bewitched by language. "Exists" functions *grammatically* like "eats." So we are bewitched into thinking that it functions *metaphysically* like "eats." By habit, we think that we'll learn something extra about the world if we know it exists. And if it's a predicate, then we can push it even harder and require that the world *necessarily* exist. This is what the Western philosophical spiritual seeker asks of this word. And it can't do the work! > > --Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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