Guest guest Posted March 3, 2004 Report Share Posted March 3, 2004 Ananda Wood <awood wrote: >Could you say something more about a further >etymological connection >between 'hap' and 'apt'? Eric Partridges "Origins" >says that the >English 'apt' comes from the >Latin 'aptus'(meaning 'fastened' or >'well-fitted') and is related to the Sanskrit 'apta' >(meaning >'attained', 'complete', 'apt', 'fit' -- from the >verbal root 'ap-' >meanining to 'attain'). Good Morning Ananda, Interesting that Partridge brings in the Skt. roots. I work from home and have Skeat with me here. I was once told that Skeat's original researches included many more Skt. roots than appear in his published dictionary. 'Too much speculation', was the accusation but it was probably a decision tied in with Empire politics. My own final understanding was, of course, speculative but it gave me a relevant meaning at the time as I sought to distinguish between happiness as known in the state of union and that happiness generally confused with sense and mental pleasure. I do not have my old notes now but if we take yours from above: Sanskrit 'apta' >(meaning >'attained', 'complete', 'apt', 'fit' -- from the >verbal root 'ap-' >meanining to 'attain' the connection can come through the word 'fit'. This is also the meaning of Anglo Saxon gehaep (Skeat) which is given in his definition of 'hap'(fortune, chance, accident) from which come happily, happiness etc as well as happen. Now the modern understanding of 'fit' can get in the way but if we make this totally practical, when we use the 'apt'or 'fit' tools for a job, then all the necessary energy is available and we are 'fit' in all meanings. The work becomes easy and we are 'happy'. Now for a bit more speculation. Scientists the world over will confirm that great insights come by chance (happ-i-ly) and they probably derive great happiness in the discovery. If we learn to stand back from attachment to the inevitable fruits of an event, through discrimination (a strong and fit intellect maybe), and allow the events to unfold in righteous, due order, without claim or comment, then they appear as if by good fortune or luck. Then there will be happiness. I think that English is such a mess that we cannot get very far with it and I much prefer Sunder's Sanskrit in an earlier mail on the degrees of happiness. When using English to describe the happiness at the centre of this thread then 'bliss' is probably a preferred word for the ecstatic state in union. This, through the Anglo Saxon again, is linked with blithe, which contains the meaning of sweetness as well as happiness. Now I am back to the RV.I.164 which I posted last evening and Skeat gives Skt. svad as the root of the English sweet. I think we need Yaska to come along and help us out. It should be clear from the above that I am not an etymologist. Hope you can make something of the above but if the 'sweetness' excites you I would love to hear any comments from you on that line of thought in sanskrit :cf.madhu Best wishes ken knight New Photos - easier uploading and sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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