Guest guest Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 Hello Benjamin, You're still locked into the conceivability thesis i.e. that it is inconceivable that anything should be without being a presentation to some consciousness or other. The Realist opposite number is that the world exists independently of our representations of it. It's not as though this can be proved but rather that it is the background for all intelligibility. It is to a degree a transcendental postulate. Sankara takes that short way with the Vijnanavadin saying you can't be eating your meal and then deny there was meal or eater therof. ((note: I may give up on citation as nobody else is bothered. Perhaps a signal such as *** may be taken to mean 'now place the B.S.B. on your head --Q: Where does Sankara talk about anirvacanaya or is it a deep secret?)) As I was saying before I interrupted myself may I offer as intellectual ascesis the gnome - 'Everything I know is wrong'. (The alert will spot a self referential paradox in that) Just say no to everything! Can we say no to consciousness? Distinguish between consciousness as given in individual states and consciousness as such. Is there an illicit move from states of awareness to general pure consciousness? The Mandukya Upanisad (***) discusses modalities of consciousness but regards the Fourth as the underlying reality of the other three. It is thus a metaphysical entity, a postulate, the culmination of the mystical quest or what you will. Leave it out you (one) have not earned it. As a postulate pure consciousness must be bedded in good grounds. Here come the pramana (V.P.***) Advaita is a sort of ontological Realism. The object is taken to be known as it is with the caveat that our representations are restricted and may be erroneous. On this extraordinarily modest foundation scarcely offering any resistance to the frost heave of the analytical intelligence, you might surmise, the elegent edifice of Advaita is placed. (B.S.B.***) Best Wishes, Michael. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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