Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Here is a nice Shloka in Sad Darshanam of Ramana Maharshi. "Dwaitham Vichare Paramarthabodhe Thvath advaithamithyesha na sadhu vadaha | Gaveshanaath prag dashame vinashte paschasch labdhe dashamathvamekam || "To say there is duality during enquiry and non-dulaity in the knowledge of the supreme is not right. The tenth man's tenthness is one and the same when he was lost before search and when he was found later." Here Sri Ramana Maharshi refers to a story of ten foolish men who were crossing a river. After crossing, they wished to count each other and see that all ten had safely crossed. But, each one left himself out while counting and thus each one saw only 9 (the missing one being himself). So they were all lamenting when a passerby asked them what the problem was? They explained to him that they were 10 before crossing and now they are 9 and hence one must be lost. The passerby saw all 10 before him and guessed what happened. He told the fools, I will give each one of you a blow and when you receive your blow count your number. So he started giving each one a blow and they counted themselves, 1, 2 , 3 , so on. When the 10th man fell down from his blow counting 10, they realized that they had been 10 people all along. Sri Ramana Maharshi says nothing new was discovered when the 10 th man was found. He had all the time been there. Similarly, out of ignorance we percieve duality. To say that there is duality "dwaita" now and non-duality "advaita" later is in correct. That which is always is. Anand http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/public/advaita-l/2000 well, what do yo all think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Namaste Sri Anandji, That is why it is said “Praptasya Praptam”, obtaining the one already obtained. Again “manasa aprapya sah:” because how the mind can reach It when the mind itself is That. The Shastras are “gnapakaartham eva” i.e. to remind only. Arjuna said at the end of the Lord’s Teaching “nashto mohaha, smruthi labdha." Warm regards and Hari Om Mani adi_shakthi16 <adi_shakthi16 wrote:Here is a nice Shloka in Sad Darshanam of Ramana Maharshi. "Dwaitham Vichare Paramarthabodhe Thvath advaithamithyesha na sadhu vadaha | Gaveshanaath prag dashame vinashte paschasch labdhe dashamathvamekam || "To say there is duality during enquiry and non-dulaity in the knowledge of the supreme is not right. The tenth man's tenthness is one and the same when he was lost before search and when he was found later." Here Sri Ramana Maharshi refers to a story of ten foolish men who were crossing a river. After crossing, they wished to count each other and see that all ten had safely crossed. But, each one left himself out while counting and thus each one saw only 9 (the missing one being himself). So they were all lamenting when a passerby asked them what the problem was? They explained to him that they were 10 before crossing and now they are 9 and hence one must be lost. The passerby saw all 10 before him and guessed what happened. He told the fools, I will give each one of you a blow and when you receive your blow count your number. So he started giving each one a blow and they counted themselves, 1, 2 , 3 , so on. When the 10th man fell down from his blow counting 10, they realized that they had been 10 people all along. Sri Ramana Maharshi says nothing new was discovered when the 10 th man was found. He had all the time been there. Similarly, out of ignorance we percieve duality. To say that there is duality "dwaita" now and non-duality "advaita" later is in correct. That which is always is. Anand http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/public/advaita-l/2000 well, what do yo all think? Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of Atman and Brahman. Advaitin List Archives available at: http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ To Post a message send an email to : advaitin Messages Archived at: advaitin/messages advaitin/ advaitin Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 namaste shri maniji, i was only quoting one Anand who had posted this in the advaita- vedanta forum ... i thought it was appropriate to quote this at this present juncture ... i am not the 'author' of the post - only a messenger delivering this beautiful post ... thank you anyway love and blessings advaitin, "R.S.MANI" <r_s_mani> wrote: > > > > Namaste Sri Anandji, > > That is why it is said "Praptasya Praptam", obtaining the one already obtained. Again "manasa aprapya sah:" because how the mind can reach It when the mind itself is That. > > The Shastras are "gnapakaartham eva" i.e. to remind only. > > Arjuna said at the end of the Lord's Teaching "nashto mohaha, smruthi labdha." > > Warm regards and Hari Om > > Mani > > > adi_shakthi16 <adi_shakthi16> wrote:Here is a nice Shloka in Sad Darshanam of Ramana Maharshi. > > "Dwaitham Vichare Paramarthabodhe > Thvath advaithamithyesha na sadhu vadaha | > Gaveshanaath prag dashame vinashte > paschasch labdhe dashamathvamekam || > > "To say there is duality during enquiry and non-dulaity in the > knowledge > of the supreme is not right. The tenth man's tenthness is one and > the same > when he was lost before search and when he was found later." > > Here Sri Ramana Maharshi refers to a story of ten foolish men who > were crossing a river. After crossing, they wished to count each > other and see that all ten had safely crossed. > But, each one left himself out while counting and thus each one saw > only 9 (the missing one being himself). So they were all lamenting > when a passerby asked them what the problem was? They explained to > him that they were 10 before crossing and now they are 9 and hence > one must be lost. The passerby saw all 10 before him and guessed what > happened. > He told the fools, I will give each one of you a blow and when you > receive your blow count your number. So he started giving each one a > blow and they counted themselves, 1, 2 , 3 , so on. When the 10th man > fell down from his blow counting 10, they realized that they had been > 10 people all along. > Sri Ramana Maharshi says nothing new was discovered when the 10 th > man was found. He had all the time been there. Similarly, out of > ignorance we percieve duality. To say that there is duality "dwaita" > now and non-duality "advaita" later is in correct. That which is > always is. > > Anand > > > http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/public/advaita-l/2000 > > well, what do yo all think? Discussion of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta Philosophy of nonseparablity of Atman and Brahman. > Advaitin List Archives available at: http://www.eScribe.com/culture/advaitin/ > To Post a message send an email to : advaitin > Messages Archived at: advaitin/messages > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > advaitin/ > > > advaitin > > Terms of Service. > > > > > Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16> wrote: > namaste shri maniji, > > i was only quoting one Anand who had posted this in the advaita- > vedanta forum ... Namaste, As we already have a member and Moderator by the name of Anand (Wood), it would be desirable to put the quotation marks around the quote, and at the end put the author's name in brackets rather than after the quote as the latter appears as if it is a signature in the current list. Regards, Sunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 sure, sunderji! i apologize and your suggestion is noted. i am enjoying this group immensely... what i like most about this group is the free flow of ideas and exchange of views ... very healthy for well-rounded discussions. i also love the way the moderators operate this group without cramping anyone's style... at the end of the day, honestly speaking , we do not come to groups for instant 'enlightenment '... we come to such as these to hang out with like minded souls and in the process pick up some spiritual truths... "satsangati" ... Hari Aum! -- In advaitin, "Sunder Hattangadi" <sunderh> wrote: > advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16> > wrote: > > namaste shri maniji, > > > > i was only quoting one Anand who had posted this in the advaita- > > vedanta forum ... > > Namaste, > > As we already have a member and Moderator by the name of Anand > (Wood), it would be desirable to put the quotation marks around the > quote, and at the end put the author's name in brackets rather than > after the quote as the latter appears as if it is a signature in the > current list. > > > Regards, > > Sunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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