Guest guest Posted March 25, 2004 Report Share Posted March 25, 2004 Namaste SrI Balaji, I see some truth in your posts. Hopefully, I have already made my last useless speculative post in this list. I need some help with practice. How can the practice of advaita be maintained? (The issue of practice reminds me of the beautiful vivekachUDAmaNi.) The initial momentum may be high but it seems to die down when one gets into the affairs of the world. This is from my personal experience. Thanks. Regards Raghavendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2004 Report Share Posted March 25, 2004 Dear Kalyan sir, I am surprised by your post! I am no advisor of wise people. Practice depends upon your ability and your commitment to the cause - 'Self- quest' (also called adhyaatma) Answer these questions before practice: Is spirituality endeared to you through anubhooti or through intellectual speculation? If it is through the latter, you need not practice, for you are having your share of spirituality through speculative guesses. Are you ready to follow a strict and disciplined life for 11 days, without communicating with anyone? These 11 days, you shall have to reside in a particular place and shall return after that time. Once admitted, you shall leave only after 11 days. Your own ways may return to normal after these days, while for these 11 days, you shall not practice any other form of meditation or any such things. Yogic exercises may be done for a maximum of 90 mins/day during these days. If you agree to all the terms of the last paragraph, in my next post, I shall let you know the way to the path to liberation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2004 Report Share Posted March 25, 2004 Namaste SrI Balaji, > I am surprised by your post! I am no advisor of wise people. No problem sir. I am not wise. > Is spirituality endeared to you through anubhooti or through > intellectual speculation? If it is through the latter, you need not > practice, for you are having your share of spirituality through > speculative guesses. >From the former. I see only dry externalities in speculative guessing. I have learnt it the hard way.(Look at my own earlier posts.) I dont see how the latter can calm down the mental agitations. > Are you ready to follow a strict and disciplined life for 11 days, > without communicating with anyone? These 11 days, you shall have to > reside in a particular place and shall return after that time. Once > admitted, you shall leave only after 11 days. Your own ways may > return to normal after these days, while for these 11 days, you >shall > not practice any other form of meditation or any such things. Yogic > exercises may be done for a maximum of 90 mins/day during these > >days. Let me be honest. By myself I have no problem. But you see, I am operating under certain "constraints", which is why I mentioned about wordly affairs. It may not be very difficult to be drowned in the Self in a quiet place or when the conditions are favourable. The problem is - How to replicate the scenario in my present/future surroundings? Here comes the relevance of practice, I guess. I dont understand one more point. Why again the self imposed strict discipline? Isn't it the contemplation on the Self that is needed? The drawback of an imposed disciplined life is that it tends to increase the mental agitations by making the mind constantly think about what it is missing. Of course, all this is by my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2004 Report Share Posted March 25, 2004 > Let me be honest. By myself I have no problem. But you see, I am > operating under certain "constraints", which is why I mentioned about > wordly affairs. It may not be very difficult to be drowned in the > Self in a quiet place or when the conditions are favourable. The > problem is - How to replicate the scenario in my present/future > surroundings? Here comes the relevance of practice, I guess. You will find the answer to that when you do it. Anyway all you need to do is: 1. Talk less. So you tell lesser lies. 2. Practice about one hour daily and slowly increase that to three hours, depending on time availabilities. Rest assured, once you find time for it, there will always be time, because then your work will finish so quickly (practice can improve even our efficiency). You will get time. All that remains to be answered is can you get 11 days off somehow from your apparently busy schedule? > > I dont understand one more point. Why again the self imposed strict > discipline? Isn't it the contemplation on the Self that is needed? > The drawback of an imposed disciplined life is that it tends to > increase the mental agitations by making the mind constantly think > about what it is missing. Of course, all this is by my experience. By discipline I mean the following: 1. Do not harm anything or anyone 2. Truth 3. Do not steal 4. Practice celibacy (for at least 11 days) 5. Donot take narcotics 6. Practice noble silence (Aarya mauna) or Complete silence for 11 days These are necessary for the contemplation of the Self. I am sure that your mind would normally not miss the following: 1. harming others 2. telling lies (well you might miss it, but you may not even know that when you won't get to know that when you won't talk for 11 days. 3. Stealing 4. taking narcotics as far as wanting the other two (sex and gossiping) is concerned, you may do so after those 11 days. If you think you would missing killing animals telling lies etc. Self-knowledge is certainly not for you. If you think you cannot live without sex and gossip for 11 days this method is not for you, maybe you could find something that is more moderate. If you think you could follow the above six rules, tell me. -Balaji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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