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Dear Shri Balaji,

 

Namaste.

> Btw, darshan refers to the realization of the truth that each

> enlightened soul had, and his wordification of that. You cannot read

> philosophy or Shankara's works or the Vedas and get enlightened. So

> darshan is not meant for us. It is meant for the person with right

> adhikara (preparation), who is currently treading the path to realize

> the truth to help him analyse and wordify his experience on the way

> to the Ultimate truth.

 

 

Is it so?

 

> Shankara never fought the other schools of thought. What would he

> gain by fighting with them all and proving that he is Sarvajna. When

> we read Shankara Vijayam, we must understand the need for Shankara to

> do so, not just read it like a story. It is only with a purpose that

> a realized soul would do anything. And Shankara's life was full of

> purposes.

 

 

Is it so?

 

> When he refuted the other schools of thought, he refuted their

> objections to Advaita. He never said that the other schools of

> thought were wrong, but said that they were misrepresenting Advaita.

> He also said that the buddhists had an inadequate representation of

> the truth (not wrong. In some buddhist schools, he proved they were

> wrong, but particularly to Mahayana, he said they were just

> inadequate.) But in his works, still, (altough not in the same

> breath) he still maintains that even Advaita is inadequate and that

> Anubhuti is required for the jijnasu.

 

 

Dear Balaji, it is very clear from your above post that you are not familiar

either with SankarAchArya's works or his advaita darshana. You have already

reached some wrong conclusions with your self-effort or you are been misguided

by some books. So it is futile to discuss these things with you. Maybe we will

discuss about Kailas and the degree of coldness there some other time.

 

I request you to take up His works and try to assimilate His teaching.

Understanding the true import of the Veda-s is enough for enlightment.

Meditation is not necessary. Please understand this.

 

With no personal grudge at heart, I am stepping out of this discussion.

 

There was a message posted by one learned member long back.

 

"He who knows not and knows that he knows not is simple, teach him.

He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool, leave him.

He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep, wake him.

He who knows and knows that he knows is wise, follow him. "

 

Best of lucks.

 

Hari Om

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Babu Moshay!

 

Happy Durgashtami!

 

 

nice quote ...

 

"He who knows not and knows that he knows not is simple, teach him.

He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool, leave

him.

He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep, wake him.

He who knows and knows that he knows is wise, follow him. "

 

A timely reminder...

 

here is one that i luv!

 

The scholar needs to know more and more each day. The follower of Tao

needs to know less and less each day.

 

By lessening knowledge one reaches inaction. By inaction everything

can be done.

 

The world is won by those who leave it alone. When one feels

compelled to dominate, the world is already beyond reach.

 

Love and blessings

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Namaste:

 

In the same context, the following quotation from Colton is a good

one:

 

" There is this difference between happiness and wisdom that he that

thinks himself the happiest man really is so; but he that thinks

himself the wisest is generally the greatest fool."

 

regards,

 

Ram Chandran

advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16>

wrote:

> Babu Moshay!

>

> Happy Durgashtami!

>

>

> nice quote ...

>

> "He who knows not and knows that he knows not is simple, teach him.

> He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool, leave

> him.

> He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep, wake him.

> He who knows and knows that he knows is wise, follow him. "

>

> A timely reminder...

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nice one!

 

here is one more to the list...

 

He who knows others is wise. He who knows himself is enlightened.

Lao Tzu

 

 

advaitin, "Ram Chandran" <RamChandran@a...>

wrote:

> Namaste:

>

> In the same context, the following quotation from Colton is a good

> one:

>

> " There is this difference between happiness and wisdom that he

that

> thinks himself the happiest man really is so; but he that thinks

> himself the wisest is generally the greatest fool."

>

> regards,

>

> Ram Chandran

> advaitin, "adi_shakthi16"

<adi_shakthi16>

> wrote:

> > Babu Moshay!

> >

> > Happy Durgashtami!

> >

> >

> > nice quote ...

> >

> > "He who knows not and knows that he knows not is simple, teach

him.

> > He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool,

leave

> > him.

> > He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep, wake him.

> > He who knows and knows that he knows is wise, follow him. "

> >

> > A timely reminder...

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Namaste all

While on the nice interior branch street of 'quotes on wise men'

a lovely addition below:

'Wise men speak from experience; wiser men from experience do not

speak'

I unfortunately do not know the author

Endless crores of namaskarams to all advaitins

Sridhar

advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16>

wrote:

> nice one!

>

> here is one more to the list...

>

> He who knows others is wise. He who knows himself is enlightened.

> Lao Tzu

>

>

> advaitin, "Ram Chandran" <RamChandran@a...>

> wrote:

> > Namaste:

> >

> > In the same context, the following quotation from Colton is a

good

> > one:

> >

> > " There is this difference between happiness and wisdom that he

> that

> > thinks himself the happiest man really is so; but he that thinks

> > himself the wisest is generally the greatest fool."

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Ram Chandran

> > advaitin, "adi_shakthi16"

> <adi_shakthi16>

> > wrote:

> > > Babu Moshay!

> > >

> > > Happy Durgashtami!

> > >

> > >

> > > nice quote ...

> > >

> > > "He who knows not and knows that he knows not is simple, teach

> him.

> > > He who knows not and knows not that he knows not is a fool,

> leave

> > > him.

> > > He who knows and knows not that he knows is asleep, wake him.

> > > He who knows and knows that he knows is wise, follow him. "

> > >

> > > A timely reminder...

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