Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Namaste All, In the second chapter of Upadesa Sahasri, Sankara makes clear what sort of knowledge self- knowledge is and how it differs from ordinary objective knowledge. His initial statement seems paradoxical so it is worth quoting the whole passage so that context is retained. 107-108: .....I have said that knowledge, the result produced by evidences, is the same as the self-evident, self-effulgent, and the changeless Self. That is what I mean by knowledge. 108: The objector (the disciple) says, "It is contradictory to state that Knowledge is the result of evidences and (at the same time) it is the self-effulgent Self which is changeless and eternal." The reply given to him is this "It is not a contradiction." How then is knowledge a result? "(It is a result in a secondary sense:) though changeless and eternal, It is noticed in the presence of mental modifications called sense-perception etc. as they are instrumental in making It manifest. It appears to be transitory as the mental modifications called sense-perception etc. are transitory. It is for this reason that it is called the result of proofs in a secondary sense." Comment: The secondary sense of knowledge is akin to that given by the term 'realised' in English which indicates that a person embodies, instantiates or lives a certain condition of awareness. Knowing himself he knows that. In his commentary on the Kena Upanisad, Sankara declares: "Being the witness of all cognitions, and by nature nothing but the power of consciousness, the Self is indicated by the cognitions themselves, in the midst of cognitions, as non-different from them. There is no other door to Its awareness." (II.4) If there is a door, is there an opening of the door? If there is a ripening is there a falling? We are trapped into thinking literally of stages and transitions and miss what for the sage is obvious - we were ever thus. Ramana I think did not say that he became enlightened in the Vipakshah cave (?) or anywhere else. In reality his state was always the same. Best Wishes, Michael. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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