Guest guest Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Namaste ProfVKji, >Happy Birthday, Ben. Here is an intellectual birthday gift >to you, because I know you would enjoy a gift (challenge) >of this kind . A puzzle for my birthday gift? Thank you. To tell the truth, I would rather eat another piece of cake. But I guess I can have my cake and eat it too and try to solve a puzzle... By the way, it is Adiji who is ultimately responsible for putting me in this embarrassing position. Just kidding Adiji! Thanks for the kind birthday greeting over on your list, and I loved that picture of Baby Krishna eating the butter. That coincides perfectly with my love of dairy products ... not to mention sugar. Did Krishna also have a sweet tooth? Does this mean there is hope for those of us who sometimes succumb to the senses? >Evam sati : That being so >satyatA : reality >vA mRshhAtvaM : or unreality >bhAti : depends >bhUyaH alpaka-samaya-vashAt : on the length or shortness of time. OK, as for the puzzle. Well, I can only come up with a rather conventional Advaitin answer, namely, that the waking and dream states are equally unreal, because each seems equally real at the time but only as long as it lasts. They negate each other, so to speak, through their mutual succession. Therefore, the only true reality is the witnessing consciousness, which persists identically throughout all states and hence is beyond the power of time to anhilate. That seems too easy and conventional for an answer. It must be a trick question... By the way, I sure hope that moksha is not preconditioned on mastering Sanskrit! (Great to listen too on CD, though.) Hari Om! Benjamin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 -hi benji ( my nickname for you is Conscious Integrity) ! Many Happy Returns of the Day! You know me in my own group - I am pretty 'informal' there and i kind of hang loose and adopt a gypsy like posture ... but in advaitinggroup , i like to be 'formal because i am surrounded by scholars and pundits ... I know you are kind of fascinated by Bala Gopala - the image of BABY KRISHNA with his mouth full of Butter ! here is a song to celebrate Krisna stealing the butter ... Maiyya Mori Mein Nahin Makhan Khayo "Oh Dearest Mother, I Haven't Eaten Butter!" by Sura Dasa (refrain) o maiyya mori, mein nahin makhan khayo Refrain) Oh Dearest Mother! I didn't eat butter! (1) bhor bhayo gaiyana ke pache (tune) madhubana mohi pathayo In the morning, by your order, I associated with the cows and grazed Madhubana fields. cara prahara vamsivata bhatakyo sanjha pare ghara ayo (maiyya, mein kab makhan khayo) At four hours later, I was playing the flute and roamed and it became evening and I came home. When could I have eaten the butter? (2) mein balaka vahi yan ko choto choto yeh chiko vidhi payo I am so short, and the butter is so high, that how it is possible for Me to reach such stature? yeh gvala bala sab bair pade hain bar-bas mukha lapatayo These young calf drink milk from their mother cows, and they come and lick me on my lips. (3) yeh le apani lakuta kambaliya bahu hi naca nacayo Here is your stick and kambala again, and use it dance. Now that you accuse Me wrongly. jiye tere kuch bheda upaj hai tuhe mohe janyo, parayo janyo I now realize a great secret, that you are not My mother. You are My foster mother. sura dasa tab hasi yasoda le ur kantha lagayo naina nira bhari ayo (te nahin makhan khayo) Sura Dasa, then, sees Mother Yasoda clasping Krsna on her breast and neck and saYS with teary eyes, "You didn't eat butter!" ********************************************************************** here, in this song, Yasodha , the foster Mother of baby krishna accuses krishna of stealing 'butter' and then baby krishna comes up with all sorts of clever excuses ! It is beautiful song and one should hear it sung by the greatest of bhajan singer, Anup Jalota! In another incident . krishna is playing with other kids and comes home . Mother YASODHA is told by the gopis that krishna has swallowed a Lot of sand and when Mother yasodha asks Krishna to open the mouth she sees " all the three universe'' .... Needless to say, Mother yasodha knows tht this is no ordinary child but the great Lord himself! ALL THESE ARE KRISHNA LEELA or pasttimes of Krishna. only a 'rasika' saint can ebjoy these pristine pasttimes. The Jnanis always want to know 'why' - THE BHAKTAS do not worry about the 'whys'! Bask in the love of krishna prema madhuri ! Let the love of krishna shine on both your cheeks and enjoy your day, benji!!!! love and blessings -- In advaitin, Benjamin <orion777ben> wrote: > > Namaste ProfVKji, > > >Happy Birthday, Ben. Here is an intellectual birthday gift > >to you, because I know you would enjoy a gift (challenge) > >of this kind . > > A puzzle for my birthday gift? Thank you. To tell the truth, I > would rather eat another piece of cake. But I guess I can have my > cake and eat it too and try to solve a puzzle... > > By the way, it is Adiji who is ultimately responsible for putting me > in this embarrassing position. Just kidding Adiji! Thanks for the > kind birthday greeting over on your list, and I loved that picture of > Baby Krishna eating the butter. That coincides perfectly with my > love of dairy products ... not to mention sugar. Did Krishna also > have a sweet tooth? Does this mean there is hope for those of us who > sometimes succumb to the senses? > > > >Evam sati : That being so > >satyatA : reality > >vA mRshhAtvaM : or unreality > >bhAti : depends > >bhUyaH alpaka-samaya-vashAt : on the length or shortness of time. > > OK, as for the puzzle. Well, I can only come up with a rather > conventional Advaitin answer, namely, that the waking and dream > states are equally unreal, because each seems equally real at the > time but only as long as it lasts. They negate each other, so to > speak, through their mutual succession. Therefore, the only true > reality is the witnessing consciousness, which persists identically > throughout all states and hence is beyond the power of time to > anhilate. > > That seems too easy and conventional for an answer. It must be a > trick question... > > By the way, I sure hope that moksha is not preconditioned on > mastering Sanskrit! (Great to listen too on CD, though.) > > Hari Om! > Benjamin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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