Knowledge only from shruti- Siddhanta Shravana ........

[Guest guest]

Michaelji writes...

 

".... I think that it is better to find a teacher or a form that

appeals to one, focus on him or her and by so doing merge with the

divine. 'First you see the light, then > you are in the light, then

you are the light."

 

Diivine words ...

 

who is this guru?

 

Guru is Shiva sans his three eyes,

Vishnu sans his four arms

Brahma sans his four heads.

He is parama Shiva himself in human form"

 

says Brahmanda Purana

 

"Siddhanta shravana," scriptural study, the sixth niyama, is the end

of the search.

 

Prior to this end, prior to finding the satguru, we are free to study

all the scriptures of the world, of all religions, relate and

interrelate them in our mind, manipulate their meanings and justify

their final conclusions. We are free to study all of the sects and

sampradayas, all denominations, lineages and teachings, everything

under the banner of Hinduism -- the Saivites, the Vaishnavites, the

Smartas, Ganapatis, Ayyappans, Shaktas and Murugans and their

branches.

 

(((((((((snip))))))))))

 

 

 

Have full faith that when your guru does appear, after you have made

yourself ready through the ten restraints and the first five

practices, you will know in every nerve current of your being that

this is your guide on the path through the next five practices: 1)

siddhanta shravana, scriptural study -- following one verbal lineage

and not pursuing any others; 2) mati, cognition -- developing a

spiritual will and intellect with a guru's guidance; 3) vrata, sacred

vows -- fulfilling religious vows, rules, and observances faithfully;

4) japa, recitation of holy mantras -- here we seek initiation from

the guru to perform this practice and; 5) tapas, performing

austerity, sadhana, penance and sacrifice, also under the guru's

guidance.

 

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Siddhanta shravana literally means "scriptural listening." It is one

thing to read the Vedas, Upanishads and Yoga Sutras, but it is quite

another to hear their teachings from one who knows, because it is

through hearing that the transmission of subtle knowledge occurs,

from knower to seeker. And that is why listening is preferred over

intellectual study.

 

Because sound is the first creation, knowledge is transferred through

sound of all kinds. It is important that one listen to the highest

truths of a sampradaya from one who has realized them. The words, of

course, will be familiar. They have been read by the devotee

literally hundreds of times, but to hear them from the mouth of the

enlightened rishi is to absorb his unspoken realization, as he re-

realizes his realization while he reads them and speaks them out.

This is Saiva Siddhanta. This is true sampradaya -- thought, meaning

and knowledge conveyed through words spoken by one who has realized

the Ultimate. The words will be heard, the meaning the satguru

understands as meaning will be absorbed by the subconscious mind of

the devotee, and the superconscious, intuitive knowledge will impress

the subsuperconscious mind of the devotees who absorb it, who milk it

out of the satguru himself. This and only this changes the life

pattern of the devotee. There is no other way. This is why one must

come to the guru open, like a child, ready and willing to absorb, and

to go through many tests. And this is why one must choose one's guru

wisely and be ready for such an event in one's life.

 

 

Are you ready for a saDguru?

 

Please read....

 

http://www.himalayanacademy.com/books/lws/lws_ch-08.html

 

 

dwandwatitam, gaganasadrsham, tattwamasya, dilakshyam

 

ekam nityam vimalamachalam, sarvadi sakshibhutam

 

bhavatitam, trigunarahitam, sadgurum tamnamami

 

gaganasadrsham, ekam, satchidananda rupam

 

vimalamachalam, adyam, tattwamasya dilakshayam

 

sakalavishaya mulam, sarvadhi sakshibhutam

 

parama sukhada bhavam, satgurum bhayami

 

The embodiment of the Bliss of Brahman, The Giver of Supreme

Happiness, The Free, The personification of Wisdom, The One beyond

all dualities, Infinite as the sky, Indicated by scriptural

expressions as "Tat Twam Asi", (Thou Art that); The one, eternal,

Pure, Immovable, The Witness beyond the Intellect of every one;

beyond all manifestations; free from all attributes - my salutations

to the Enlightened Guru.

 

 

SRI GURAVE NAMAHA!

 

Aum Namha Shivaye !

[Guest guest]

Namaste Adiji,

Maybe I wouldn't pass the entrance exam to the Himalayan Academy

- You missed my point in the first paragraph about context i.e. time,

place and person being important in the understanding of a text, message,

communication etc. The brochure from the Academy is addressed to the seeking

Hindu and is understandable in that context though even they might have some

difficulty with 'This and only this changes the life pattern of the devotee.

There is no other way.' Certainty is a comfort but is it the same as faith?

 

Best Wishes, Michael.

[Guest guest]

Namaste Michaelji !

 

oh no! i think you would come out with flying colors! magna-cum-

laude!!! smiles!

 

You write ]

 

"The brochure from the Academy is addressed to the seeking

Hindu and is understandable in that context though even they might

have some difficulty with 'This and only this changes the life

pattern of the devotee. > There is no other way."

 

Well, in my naivette , i believed it was addressed to all SEEKERS OF

TRUTH !! smiles again...

 

you state

 

" Certainty is a comfort but is it the same as faith?"

 

Was it albert Einstein who said

 

"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not

certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to

reality. "

 

one more quote and i am all done

 

Heb 11:1 (NEB) Faith... makes us certain of realities we do not see.

 

 

enjoy the bliss !!!