Guest guest Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 Namaste Adiji. Going upthread, I notice that it is one of my posts that prompted your quotes. Thanks, therefore, for the timely advice and reminder. PraNAms. Madathil Nair _____________________ advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16> wrote: > i am reminded of this when i read the responses > > "One often contradicts an opinion when what is uncongenial is really > the tone in which it was conveyed." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 no not at all ! i just chose to link it to yours because i know you are 'easy to please' and 'hard to offend' and i know you for a longer time than others !! but seriously, this happens in all specially where there are Scholars and knowledgeble people ... The E-GO IS SO STRONG ... that uLtimately one by one members leave or remain silent as they cannot have the Last word! as s moderator , nairji, You do not want too many 'casualties'do you ? we have already seen RANJAN-JI leave; Prabhuji is offended because somebody addressed him as a NIhilist and now we have a woman member ( savitriji) the only one who stands up to all the scholarly men saying that she wants to end the discussion here . Balaji is conspicuous by his absence . so on and on ... But, if adi shankara himself were to read all these 'back and forth' responses , he would be smiling and saying to Himself ... Did i really say that ? or did i really mean that? but anyway , this discussion is better than quarelling about who should recite the Gayatri mantra ? only brahmanas ? or can women and shudras recite the Gayatri mantra too ? i can take the liberty of writing to you because i know you respect all women( ignorant ones like me too) and you worship Devi also in all Her DIVINE MANIFESTATIONS ... ANYWAY , adi shankara himself says in Viveka chudamani ( stigji, forgive me ! i am still not convinved that adi shankara is not the author - smiles) Bliss is a crest jewel protected by the ego serpent with three heads (the three gunas). Cut these heads asunder with the sword of discrimination ; and as these heads reappear again and again, the serpent itself must be destroyed. Then alone will the jewel be attained. ( viveka chudamani -verse -302) LOVE AND BLESSINGS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 God, whose love and joy are present everywhere, can't come to visit *YOU* unless *YOU* aren't there. ------- and......... God *is* visiting you, because you *aren't* there. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 namaste. On Mother's Day, it will do good for us to think of and contemplate on shri jaganmAtA. In shrilalitAsahasranAmA, the first name is shri mAtA, the divine Mother. It is at the behest of the divine Mother that the universe is created. The triumvirate of brahma, viShNu and maheshwara do their activities of creation, sustenance and destruction at the command of shri mAtA. In saundaryalaharI verse 1, shri shankara says that without Her (shri parameshwarI), there would not be even spandana in shiva. The whole creation is shakti. Thus, while we properly pay our respects to our mothers for their role in shaping us and our personality, the real mother which we should be contemplating on and pay reverence to is the divine Mother. Regards Gummuluru Murthy -------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2004 Report Share Posted May 11, 2004 welcome Home, shri Murthyji! one of these days, we should exchange notes on our travel experiences ! i visited kanchi , thiruvannamalai, tanjore, tiruchi, madurai etc in less than 10 days and was fortunate to visit shiva, shakti temples and abode of Skanda. I have heard about so many different gods and goddesses in hinduism but whoever heard of 97 varieties of Dosa ( indian pancake) ? This was in kshetra Madurai! This indeed is Maya - creating many out of one!!! smiles!! but, on another note, i am delighted you mentioned the name of Jagan Mata on mother's day! Yes, our womb mother only gives us physical birth ! but it is Jagan mata or jagat janani who gives us spiritual birth. i was delighted to read these nectarean words ... IN saundaryalaharI verse 1, shri > shankara says that without Her (shri parameshwarI), there > would not be even spandana in shiva. The whole creation > is shakti. Yes ! something which every shakta loves to quote over and over again. in fact, in devi bhagvatam, Jagan mata herself says... The Devî said:--"Hear, ye Immortals! My words with attention, that I am now going to speak to you, hearing which will enable the Jîvas to realise My Essence. Before the creation, I, only I, existed; nothing else was existent then. My Real Self is known by the names Chit, Sambit (Intelligence), Para Brahma and others. My Âtman is beyond mind, beyond thought, beyond any name or mark, without any parallel, and beyond birth, death or any other change or transformation. My Self has one inherent power called Mâyâ. This Mâyâ is not existent, nor non-existent, nor can it be called both. This unspeakable substance Mâyâ always exists (till the final emancipation or Moksa). Mâyâ can be destroyed by Brahmna Jñâna; so it can not be called existent, again if Mâyâ does not exist, the practical world catinot exist. So it cannot be called non-existent. Of course it cannot be called both, for it would involve contradictions. This Mâyâ (without beginning but with end at the time of Moksa) naturally arises as heat comes out of fire, as the rays come out of the Sun and as the cooling rays come out of the Moon. Just as all the Karmas of the Jîvas dissolve in deep sleep (S'usupti), so at the time of Pralaya or the General Dissolution, the Karmas of the Jîvas, the Jîvas and Time all become merged, in one uniform mass in this great Mâyâ. United with My S'aktî, I am the Cause of this world; this S'aktî has this defect that it has the power of hiding Me, its Originator. I am Nirguna. And when I am united with my S'aktî, Mâyâ, 1 become Saguns, the Great Cause of this world. This Mâyâ is divided into two, Vidyâ and Avidyâ. Avidyâ Mâyâ hides Me; whereas Vidyâ Mâyâ does not. Avidyâ creates whereas Vidyâ Mâyâ liberates." http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/dg/dg02.htm - 13k - Cached - Aum sree Matre Namaha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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