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nairji,

 

Wow! i am totally impressed with your brother's thoughts on this

subject .

 

and i also agree with his statement

 

" Maybe in future works, you could consider giving greater stress

on devotion and detachment (Bhakti & Vairagya), the other two

aspects of spirituality to which His Holiness Sankaracharya, the

greatest exponent ever of Vedanta philosophy, devoted equal

attention. "

 

Yes indeed ! as you might have all noticed , i tried to

introduce 'vairagya shatakam' and 'nirvana shatakam' from time to

time in this group. I also continued with my 'bhakti' theme but could

not crate a 'wave' in this ocean of adwaitic consciousness !!!

 

now i am delighted shri Narendra has interpretation of Purnamadaha

from a pure bhakta's point of view . May his tribe increase !

 

Other than that, i am not competent to comment on this great dialogue

between two wonderful brothers - Krishna ( narendra) and Balarama (

madathil) smiles!

 

i would like to share this with you all

 

"pyari_h" <pyari_h

Thu May 13, 2004 11:44 am

Re: Prabodha Sudhakaram - Adi Shankaracharya Bhagavatpada

 

 

 

zankaraM zankarAcAryaM kezavaM bAdarAyaNaM

sUtra bhASyakRtau vande bhagavantO punaH punaH

 

Acarya Shankara, the unrivalled propounder of Advaita Vedanta,

advised his own mother practise devotion to Lord Krishna, and blessed

her with the vision of the Lord.

 

Listen to his proclamation in the last chapter of

'Prabodha Sudhakaram', verse 150 -

 

kAmyopAsana yArthayanty anudinaM kincit phalaM svepsitam,

kecit svargam athApavargam apare yogAdi yajnAdibhiH,

asmAkaM yadunandanAMghri yugala dhyAnAvadhAnArthinAm,

kiM lokena damena kiM nRpatinA svargApavargaizca kiM?

 

"Those who waste their time for the attainment of

celestial joys or liberation (mukti- apavarga) are FOOLS!

I do NOT want any of that!

I only desire to remain engrossed in the sweet remembrance

of the lotus feet of Lord Krishna.

What is the need for pleasures of this world or heaven or

Mukti to exalted Prema bhaktas of the Lord?"

 

Thus Sri Shankara appears to consider all objects, including final

liberation as insignificant in comparison to constant loving

meditation of the lotus feet of his beloved Lord, Sri Krishna.

 

Jaya Sri Radhey

 

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advaitins may not agree with this 'sweeping' conclusion in the last

para?

 

anyway, does anybody have an english translation of this book

Prabodha Sudhakaram?

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Namaste Adiji.

 

Thank you for your good words. I am forwarding your reply too to my

brother. I will request him again to be a Member of our List, a

suggestion he has so far resisted on the ground that it may

dangerously promote his ego. That is rather like our Ranjeetji.

 

I share your view that we should take bhakti and vairAgya for a month

long discussion. I can ask my brother to do it after enrolling

himself. Chances are that he may not agree for the reason mentioned

above.

 

You couldn't create a wave perhaps because you didn't present your

thoughts in a planned manner. What is required is a comprehensive

write-up on the topic as a foundation to build on. Otherwise, it

will be like running about trying to catch dragonflies in the

garden. I am sure Sunderji (and advaitic consciousness too!) would

be most willing to accommodate the topic provided someone takes up

the initiative and gives a solid presentation to begin with to be

discussed in a reserved slot of time. A good idea, as Ramji often

suggests, is to ask a number of questions at the end to lead the

discussion in proper directions. Who will bell the cat? Any

suggestions from your side? If you have, kindly present them to

Sunderji for consideration.

 

PraNAms and thanks again for your good sentiments.

 

Madathil Nair

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advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16>

wrote:

...............> Yes indeed ! as you might have all noticed , i tried

to

> introduce 'vairagya shatakam' and 'nirvana shatakam' from time to

> time in this group. I also continued with my 'bhakti' theme but

could

> not crate a 'wave' in this ocean of adwaitic consciousness !!!

........................

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thank you nairji,

 

Your brother Narendranji is 100% right . but, participation in these

group discussion does 'inflate' and sometimes'deflate' one's ego!

sometimes, leaving a group may also be a sign of 'ego'- one cannot

truly say! smiles!

 

you write ...

 

" You couldn't create a wave perhaps because you didn't present your

thoughts in a planned manner. "

 

Maybe so.

 

The beauty about 'bhakti' is it is spontaneous; it comes from the

heart and not from the intellect.

 

satyapi bhedApagame nAtha tavAham na mAmakInastvam

sAmudro hi tarangah kvacana samudro na tArangah ||

 

Even when I am not under the influence of Dualism, O Lord,

I belong to You but You don't belong to Me ;

the waves belong to the sea but the sea never belongs to the waves.

(Shankaracharya's VishnuShatpadi)

 

btw, where is Ramachandranji ? i do miss his input.

 

 

love and regards

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