Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Namaste all, This posting was waiting to be introduced at the most appropriate time to underpin all the others. There are many other words that deserve special mention but I felt that these would be of the most use at this stage: Some Key Words Rta: Faced with the idea of an underlying unity in the diversity it is possible for us to propose a constancy that pervades the uncertain world of change. In the Vedas this is a constancy that directs the rotation of the seasons and maintains the order in the heavens; that brings order out of chaos as it were. Rta became the word used for this harmony that rests behind the changing scenes in the inner and outer environments. However, Rta was also pro-active in that it would impose order, direct people on the right path, the path taken by the righteous ones. ‘O Indra, lead us on the path of Rta, on the right path over all evils.’ RV X.133.6 As a transcendent, supramental force it is seen by some as the same concept as dharma. It is cosmic law and integrity, occasionally personalised but also impersonal and as such may be seen to express that mysterious power; it is a power of the One appearing in diversity. Yajna: The Sacred Giving Through observation it had been reasoned that a central process in Rta was an outpouring and expansion, an active giving that was mirrored by the giving of an individual in a community. In the events of yajna there can be seen signs of the first sacrifice, the manifestation of the many emerging out of the One. (Purusha Shukta, RgVeda X.90) While many rituals would be performed for the acquisition of a good life free from hunger and free from attack by one’s enemies, there is also the desire for insight and knowledge to be granted to the participants. Ultimately however, beyond these two levels, the sacrifice itself becomes the means of returning the many, through the aegises of the powers, the ‘shining ones’, devatAH, to that all-pervading source. That is, through the objects of the physical manifestation in the place, means and practitioners of the ritual, the subtle powers are invited to attend, they ‘give themselves’, expanding to the limits of the ritual through which they ultimately are released. For the ‘success’ of this act then a key must be purity; that is purity of place and materials, purity of persons and, primarily, purity of speech or word. Right intention, that is action in accordance with Rta, will enable the power of the Agni and the flowing beauty of Sarasvati, for example, to enter the ritual which takes place simultaneously at three levels. These three levels are stated in the words that traditionally introduce the Gayatri mantra: the lowest sphere (bhuuh), the intermediary of the middle region (bhvah) and the higher region of the celestial sphere (svah). Without the right ‘charitable’ intention manifesting in the song of the participants the middle region, the doorway to the essential powers, cannot be opened. dhI This extremely important faculty of spiritual discernment and vision may be observed in the Vedic tradition in the myth of the Rbhus, those humans who were elevated to the plane of the devataH through their excellent skills and craftsmanship. They manifested their miraculous deeds through three ‘skills’: the power of speech, ShacIbhiH, vision, dhIyaH, and mental ability, manasA: yaábhiH sháciibhish camasaáM+ ápiMshata yáyaa dhiyaá gaám áriNiita cármaNaH yéna hárii mánasaa nirátakSata téna devatvám RbhavaH sám aanasha ‘The mighty powers (shacIbhish, the power of speech, eloquence) wherewith. ye formed the chalices, the thought (dhiyA) by which ye drew the cow from out the hide, The intellect (manasA, heart/mind) wherewith ye wrought the two Bay Steeds,-through these, O Rbhus, ye attained divinity.’ RV III.60.2 The Gayatri Mantra is a prayer for the awakening of the dhI. ‘May we meditate, dhImah, on the Supreme Light: On the all-pervading radiance of the ultimate source of divine light. May he inspire the innermost thoughts, dhíyo, of our hearts.’ In the Upanishads that higher faculty is often referred to as buddhi. The Katha Upanishad, 3.12 states, ‘This Atman is seen through a subtle, one-pointed Buddhi’; the Mundaka says, 3.1.8, ‘(The luminous inner Self) is seen when the mind is purified and knowledge becomes clear.’ DhI is a faculty, available to all who explore their own ‘inner space’ with integrity and through listening to the mantras of their ancestral seers in ritual. DhI is strengthened through single-minded devotion, a concentration focussed on the power and knowledge of the causal realm. BrahmaNA BrahmaNA in the RigVeda is the causal vibration or sound, the sacred word through which the devaH emerges in power. The singing priest invokes the devaH and requests that he be filled with the power of fine speech which spreads out, bubbling up from the spring of inspiration, to flood the known or ever expanding universe. While channelling this causal sound the priest becomes that sound so that the singer and the song are BrahmaNA. This is the Word becoming flesh, as it were. Beginning in a state of weakness as the unempowered individual, the singer brings the strength-giving, unifying sound out of ‘the depths’ into the place of ritual. Through the manifest forms of the ritual the unmanifest is spoken. This is the ultimate power of the singer, through the soma of inspiration, the dawning light of knowledge is spoken and brings protection, wealth and good fortune into the world for the benefit of all ‘bipeds and quadrupeds’. RSi, Kavi, Vipra and Soma The Rgveda gives three names for the seer: rishi, vipra and kavi. As explained earlier, rishi means one who has the vision of the mantra. The word vipra can be traced etymologically, vip, to a trembling, excited state resulting from the presence of the power of the deity inspiring the seer. The vipras are also poets, kavis, who are able to solve the riddles of the mantras, to see through the outer forms and recognise the truth being veiled. The ordinary man or woman is transformed into the seer through such a vision. Soma, 'sva me', is the source of inspiration that is said to convert the ordinary mind and to guide the inspired sages. The mystery of Rta is unravelled only to a rishi: kavír giirbhíH kaávyenaa kavíH sán sómaH pavítram áty eti rébhan || ‘By songs a Poet and a Sage by wisdom, Soma goes singing through the cleansing filter.’ R'Simanaa yá RSikR't svarSaáH sahásraNiithaH padaviíH kaviinaám | tRtiíyaM dhaáma mahiSáH síSaasan sómo viraájam ánu raajati STúp || ‘Light-winner, Rsi-minded, Rsi-maker, hymned in a thousand hymns, Leader of sages, A Steer who strives to gain his third form, Soma is, like Viraj, resplendent as a Singer.’ RV IX.96.17,18 ‘From this Supreme Self are all these, indeed, breathed forth.’ ===== ‘From this Supreme Self are all these, indeed, breathed forth.’ Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger. http://messenger./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 advaitin, ken knight <anirvacaniya> wrote: > Some Key Words > > Rta: > Faced with the idea of an underlying unity in the > diversity it is possible for us to propose a constancy > that pervades the uncertain world of change. Namaste, This word made me recall another aspect of Time, a thread of recent discussion. [Without meaning to digress, as Sadaji had inquired about the Vedic ideas on Time in that thread, and I was unable to respond due to a 'sick' computer, I am just giving a reference to a famous hymn:] http://www.himalayanacademy.com/books/vedic_experience/Part2/VEPartIIC hA.html Purnah kumbhah AV XIX, 53 1. Time drives like a horse with seven reins, a thousand-eyed unaging Stallion. Him the inspired poets mount. All beings are his chariot wheels. 2. Time draws this chariot with seven wheels. Seven are the hubs; its axle is nondeath. At the head of all beings Time proceeds unceasingly, the first among the Gods. 3. Above Time is set a brimful vessel. Simultaneously we see Time here, there, everywhere. Set face to face with all existences, Time is throned, men say, in the loftiest realm. 4. Time has gathered together all beings that are; he has passed through all the gathered beings. He who was father has become their son. There is no glory higher than his. 5. Time generated the Sky above and this vast Earth. The passing moments present and future, by him set swinging, are reckoned out in due proportions. 6. Time brought forth fate-filled chance. In Time the Sun shines and burns. In Time the eye spies from afar. In Time all existences are. 7. In Time is consciousness and life, In Time is concentrated name By Time, when he draws close at hand, all creatures are with gladness filled. 8. In Time is energy, in Time the highest good. In Time is the Holy Utterance. Time is the Lord of all that is, the Father, he, of the Creator. 9. Sent forth by him, from him all this was born . On him is it established. So soon as he has become Brahman, Time supports the highest Deity. 10. Time created the creatures. Time created in the beginning the Lord of creatures. >From Time comes the Self-Existent. Energy likewise from Time derives. ---- Kala AV XIX, 54 1. From Time came into being the Waters, from Time the Holy Word, Energy, and the regions. By Time [each day] the Sun arises, in Time he goes to rest again. 2. By Time blows the cleansing Wind, through Time the vast Earth has her being. The great Heaven has his post in Time. 3. Their son Time long ago engendered the things that were and that shall be. >From Time came Scripture into being and formulas for Sacrifice. 4. By Time was Sacrifice inaugurated, inexhaustible oblation to the Gods. In Time live the spirits ant the nymphs. Upon Time all the worlds repose. 5. In Time are set this Angiras and Atharvan who came from Heaven, both this world and the world above, all holy worlds and holy interspaces. 6. Having conquered the worlds by Holy Word, Time, the God supreme, goes on. Raimondo Panikkar's commentary at this site is quite enthralling. Regards, Sunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 advaitin, ken knight <anirvacaniya> wrote: > > > Some Key Words > > Rta: > Faced with the idea of an underlying unity in the > diversity it is possible for us to propose a constancy > that pervades the uncertain world of change. In the > Vedas this is a constancy that directs the rotation of > the seasons and maintains the order in the heavens; > that brings order out of chaos as it were. Rta became > the word used for this harmony that rests behind the > changing scenes in the inner and outer environments. > However, Rta was also pro-active in that it would > impose order, direct people on the right path, the > path taken by the righteous ones. > `O Indra, lead us on the path of Rta, on the right > path over all evils.' RV X.133.6 > As a transcendent, supramental force it is seen by > some as the same concept as dharma. It is cosmic law > and integrity, occasionally personalised but also > impersonal and as such may be seen to express that > mysterious power; it is a power of the One appearing > in diversity. Namaste all. Just a supplement to Ken-ji's wonderful listing and explanations of the Vedic keywords. Particularly the two words Rtam and Satyam occur in pairs throughout the Vedas repeatedly. Each time people give it different meanings, for example: Satyam is Truth in its pure existence. Ritam is Truth in its dynamic movement Satyam is Truth in its pure existence. Rtam is Truth in its dynamic movement Satyam is Truth. Rtam is Law Satyam is what is true. Rtam is what is just. Satyam is individual truthfulness; Rtam is universal order Satyam is social truthfulness; Rtam is spiritual law. Satyam is Right Thought . Rtam is Right Action. Satyam is worldly truth and order. Rtam is cosmic truth and order Satyam is the true; Rtam is the right. Satyam is Truth of Being. Rtam is Truth of Divine Being. But here is a useful write up by Anand Hudli on the evolution of the meanings of Rtam and Satyam: http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/public/advaita-l/1998- April/008777.html PraNAms to all students of Rg Veda. profvk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 advaitin, "V. Krishnamurthy" <profvk> wrote: >> > But here is a useful write up by Anand Hudli on the evolution of the > meanings of Rtam and Satyam: > http://www.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/public/advaita-l/1998- > April/008777.html Namaste The above web address appears in two lines. So it has to be copied and pasted on the address box. Just clicking the first line would not work. Sorry for the inconvenience. PraNAms to all students of Rg Veda profvk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 advaitin, "V. Krishnamurthy" <profvk> wrote: > advaitin, ken knight <anirvacaniya> > wrote: > > > > > > Some Key Words > > > > Rta: > Just a supplement to Ken-ji's wonderful listing and explanations of > the Vedic keywords. Particularly the two words Rtam and Satyam occur > in pairs throughout the Vedas repeatedly. Namaste, Some more thoughts on Rta: http://www.kamakoti.org/hindudharma/foreword.html ".....There is a difference of opinion even among the learned as to the meaning of the word "dharma". The word is derived from "dhr" to uphold, sustain or nourish. The seers often use it in close association with "rta" and "satya". Sri Vidyaranya defines rta as the mental perception and realization of God. The Taithriya Upanishad also uses it with "satya" and "dharma". It exhorts students to speak the truth and practise dharma ("Satya vada"; "Dharmam chara"). According to Sankara Bhagavatpada, satya means speaking the truth and dharma means translating it (Satya) into action. "Satyamiti yathasastrarthata sa eva anusthiyamanah dharmanama bhavati." In this connection, the explanation given by Sri.K.Balasubramania Aiyar is relevant:: "An analysis of the significance of these three words (rta, satya and dharma) brings out clearly to us the fundamental basis of dharma as the ideal for an individual. While rta denotes the mental perception and realization of truth and satya denotes the exact true expression in words of the truth as perceived by the mind, dharma is the observance, in the conduct of life, of truth. In fact, dharma is the way of life which translates into action the truth perceived by the man of insight as expressed by him truly. In short, rta is truth in thought, satya is truth in words and dharma is truth in deed." [excerpt from the Foreword by Judge Mishra] Regards, Sunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 Sunderji writes... "In short, rta is truth in thought, satya is truth in words and dharma is truth in deed." Yes! Indeed! In the TaittirIya upaniShad (1.11.1)Tthere is a verse that says "satyaM vada . dharmaM cara ." Speak the truth, practice dharma and wheat is the SOURCE of Dharma ? and in manu smriti, manu says "vedo.akhilo dharmamUlam" (mulm means foundation) veda-s are the source of all dharma 'Dharmao rakshati rakshitah' Dharma protects those who protect dharma AND 'Dharma eva hatohanti' Dharma destroys those who try to destroy dharma Thank you sunderji for a delightful post. Thank you knightji for reminding us of the twin truths of Satya AND dharma - the pillars of Hinduism. with warmest regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2004 Report Share Posted June 3, 2004 please allow me to add to my last post on satya and dharma ... In sri vishnu shasaranama.h. Lord vishnu is described as satya-dharma-parAkramah Meaning One whose qualities and valor are always true. Om satya-dharma- parAkramAya namah. Here dharma refers to the auspicious qualities of BhagavAn, and parAkrama refers to His valor. One in whom they are never failing (satya) is satya-dharma-parAkramah. SrI cinmayAnanda interprets the nAma to mean that BhagavAn is one who embodies satya (truth), dharma (righteous), and parAkrama (heroism). In vAlmIki rAmAyaNa SrI rAma is referred to as satya-parAkramah - One whose parAkrama is never in vain, and is always used for the good of the world. The writer in dharma cakram points out that the nAma tells us the importance of living a life of truth, righteousenss, and the valor resulting from this kind of life. Those who live a life along these lines are bound to succeed in what they do, as evidenced by the lives of HanumAn, Bhishma, etc. - source -dAsan kRshNamAcAryan AUM NAMO NARAYANA! In advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16> wrote: > Sunderji writes... > > "In short, rta is truth in thought, satya is truth in words and > dharma is truth in deed." > > Yes! Indeed! > > > In the TaittirIya upaniShad (1.11.1)Tthere is a verse that says > > "satyaM vada . dharmaM cara ." > > Speak the truth, practice dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2004 Report Share Posted June 4, 2004 Namaste all, Thank you for today's contributions on Rta and satya which I have printed off for the file. With such full contributions I thought it best to leave the next section in my own series for a day or so. Especially as your postings have set me off on an etymological study of Rta. If anything of value appears I will post it tomorrow. One member contacted me away from the group and sent me the following URL: http://www.omshaantih.com/Scriptures/Rig%20Veda/Breath/Forth.htm This was because of the postscript I have been using to end my postings: ‘From this Supreme Self are all these, indeed, breathed forth.’ I thought that it was well worth sharing it generally Ken Knight ‘From this Supreme Self are all these, indeed, breathed forth.’ Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2004 Report Share Posted June 5, 2004 advaitin, ken knight <anirvacaniya> wrote: > Namaste all, > > Thank you for today's contributions on Rta and satya which I have printed off for the file. With such full contributions I thought it best to leave the next section in my own series for a day or so. Namaste. Here is a comment on the word 'MAyA'. Many of us would be familiar with the derivation: 'yA mA sA mAyA' meaning, 'What is not, is mAyA'. There are other derivations: 'mA ayyate (=jnAyate) iti mAyA' meaning, 'What cannot be comprehended, is mAyA'. Also, 'mIyate (=jnAyate) kAryadvArA iti mAyA' meaning, '(Though it cannot be comprehended directly) it is known by its effects'. PraNAms to all students of Rg Veda. profvk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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