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Namaste Professor,

Last Post this evening

 

It seems as though you are drawing me into deep waters

or dangerous forests. I will pick this up again

tomorrow but a little Googling came up with an

advaita-L discussion which I somehow found my way into

some time ago, and a bit of Ramanuja.

I will see what a fresh morning intellect will produce

tomorrow:

Thank you for the task,

 

Ken Knight

 

1)

http://homepage3.nifty.com/ajunamar/e-texts/skt/vas_txt.html

>From Ramanuja’s Vedarthasangraha

kiMsvid vanaM ka u sa vRkSa AsId yato dyAvA-pRthivI

niSTakSur-maNISiNo manasA pRcchated utdyad

adhyatiSThad bhuvanAni dhArayan / brahma vanaM brahma

sa vRkSa AsId yato dyAvA-pRthivI niSTatakSur manISiNo

manasA vibravImi vaH brahma-adhyatiSThad bhuvanAni /

dhArayann iti sAmAnyato dRSTena virodham AZaGkya

brahmaNaH sarva-vilakSaNatvena parihAra uktaH / ataH

sad eva somya+idam agra AsId ity atra+apy agra

ity-Ady-aneka-viZeSA brahmaNo pratipAditAH /

bhavad-abhimata-viZeSa-niSedha-vAcI ko 'pi Zabdo na

dRZyate / praty uta jagad-brahmaNoH

kArya-kAraNa-bhAva-jJApanAya+agra iti

kAla-viZeSa-sad-bhAvaH / AsId iti kriyA-viZeSo,

jagad-upAdAnatA jagan-nimittatA ca, nimitta-upAdAnayor

bheda-nirasanena tasya+eva brahmaNaH sarva-Zakti-yogaZ

ca+ity aprajJAtaH sahasraZo viZeSA eva pratipAditAH /

@@(34) yato vAstava-kArya-kAraNa-bhAva-Adi-vijJAne

pravRttam ata eva+asad eva+idam agra AsId

 

 

2) From advaita-L archives

Vidyasankar Sundaresan <svidyasankar at hotmail.com>

wrote:

>dvaita, on the other hand, is so

>keen on refuting each and every point of advaita,

that it misses the forest

>for the trees, and has to take brahman as only the

efficient cause, thereby

>admitting prakRti in by the back door as another

kAraNa

 

I accidentally stumbled upon another piece of evidence

for brahman being the material cause of the creation.

 

In the Rigveda, the poet, at two places asks the

question -

 

kiM svid vanaM ka u sa vRkSa Asa yato dyAvA pRthivi

niSTatakSuH

 

(from RV 10.31.7 and RV 10.81.4)

 

This translates to-

 

"What was the tree, what wood, in sooth, produced it,

from which Earth and Heaven were made?"

 

P.S Deshmukh says that the answer is given in the

Taittiriya Brahmana -

 

brahma vanam brahma sa vRksha Asid / yato dyAvA

pRthivi niSTatakSuH.

 

(from TB 2.8.9.5/6)

 

This translates to-

 

"brahman is the forest brahman is the tree from which

heaven and earth were made"

 

This is another piece of evidence to show that brahman

is the material cause of creation.

 

(Reference - The origin and development of Religion in

Vedic Literature - P.S Deshmukh)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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