Guest guest Posted June 29, 2004 Report Share Posted June 29, 2004 Namaste, Thank you all, Sundarji, Adi-ji, and Ken-ji for the input about 'kuhaka' from Rg Veda and other sources. I am fascinated that I have so many of you providing me with such a deep analysis of the words. This note is just to modify the meaning of the last line of Shloka 23, in view of Sundarji's suggestion that 'kahaka' could be a mistype for 'kuhaka' and also his suggestion about AvarIvaH. Though the grammatical derivation of 'AvarIvaH' is not clear to me, I go with him in assuming it is a derivation from the root verb 'A - vR' to cover and accordingly construct the following meanings for the last line of the shloka: atha etat kiM bhavet : For what is there, kuhaka-salilavat : like the water produced by a magician sharmaNi Atmani AvarIvaH : that can hide the bliss in the Self? PraNAms to all students of Adi Shankaracharya profvk Prof. V. Krishnamurthy My website on Science and Spirituality is http://www.geocities.com/profvk/ You can access my book on Gems from the Ocean of Hindu Thought Vision and Practice, and my father R. Visvanatha Sastri's manuscripts from the site. Also see my webpages on Live Happily, the Gita Way at http://www.geocities.com/profvk/gohitvip/contentsbeach11.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2004 Report Share Posted June 29, 2004 advaitin, "V. Krishnamurthy" <profvk> wrote: > > atha etat kiM bhavet : For what is there, > > kuhaka-salilavat : like the water produced by a magician > > sharmaNi Atmani AvarIvaH : that can hide the bliss in the Self? Namaste, The third line of the Nasadiya Sukta is: (Rig Veda 10:29) http://home.comcast.net/~r1p1/nAsadeeyasUktam-s.pdf kim AvarIvaH kuhakasya sharman | (some have kuha kasya !) 1. THEN was not non-existent nor existent: There was no realm of air, no sky beyond it. What covered in, and where? and what gave shelter? Was water there, unfathomed depth of water? (Griffith's tr.) Regards, Sunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2004 Report Share Posted June 29, 2004 --- Sunder Hattangadi <sunderh wrote: > > The third line of the Nasadiya Sukta is: > (Rig Veda 10:29) > > http://home.comcast.net/~r1p1/nAsadeeyasUktam-s.pdf > > kim AvarIvaH kuhakasya sharman | (some have > kuha kasya !) > > 1. > THEN was not non-existent nor existent: > There was no realm of air, no sky beyond it. > What covered in, and where? and what gave shelter? > Was water there, unfathomed depth of water? > Namaste Again, I had a look at a number of hymns and was very much struck by the wonder in 'kuha', very much like the wonder when the magician makes the elephant disappear and reappear. 'Where has it gone?' ' Where was it hidden?' It is not being used in a rather prosaic way as in 'Where are my car keys?' Then I was 'struck' again by the similarity of sound with 'guha'....this appears as gUlham in verse 3 of nasadiya sukta.....which is a very common Rgvedic root word. Speculation then ran a bit wild but in the context of Shankara's composition there is relevance I feel. Looking forward to the next posts in this series. Ken Knight ===== ‘From this Supreme Self are all these, indeed, breathed forth.’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2004 Report Share Posted June 29, 2004 Namaste, CORRECTION - The reference should read Rig Veda 10:129 (NOT 10:29) S. > > The third line of the Nasadiya Sukta is: (Rig Veda 10:29) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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