The Real & Unreal Series by Chittaranjanji-Thank You! Nair-ji!!!

[Guest guest]

First and Formost, most beloved my own NAIR-JI!

 

Let me Extend you a Very Hearty welcome Home ! It was not the same

HERE without your 'erudite' presence during CN's presentation. i,for

one , missed you and thought how nice it would have been if you had

contributed to the series with your well-informed commentary.

 

Btw, i was amused To read that You were starved of 'internet' access

In India... the one thing i discovered when i was in india was, even

in remotte villages of Tanjore, for every 'Tiffin Shop' there was an

internet cafe and an STD booth!! smiles!!

 

 

About western Philosophy and its relation to Eastern MYSTICISM - I

was also thinking why is Chitta taking so much pains to delve into

the philosophies of Descartes , Kant, Hegel, when the easy thing for

him to do would be to go straight to Shankara's bhasyas.... But

Chiita wanted to prepare the reader psychologically as well as

spirtually to see where the difference lies beetween the two

APPROACHES AND THEN APPRECIATE THE DIFFERENCE!

 

Here, NAIR-JI, If you would permit me , i would like to draw your

attention To SWAMI KRISHNANADA'S (DIVINE LIFE SOCIETY)' series on the

Ontological argument In PHILOSOPHY ....

 

http:// www.swami-krishnananda.org/disc/disc_07.html - 32k - Cached -

 

Nair-ji writes

 

"The nine essays are nine peaks, flying over which the reader has

the option where to land and perch without taxing his wings."

 

And What about the Summit?

 

The concluding and final essay ON 'ISHWARA AND MAYA'

 

THAT WAS MY FAVORITE PART!!!

 

it will be yours too !!! For i know You are a great shakta at heart,

outwardly an Advaitin!!! Smiles!!

 

 

It is strange you should mention Jean Paul Sartre ! Was it not SARTRE

who said'Words are loaded pistols'

 

Yes! It is all about words and metaphors .... this is what I HEARD

from all the discussions on the 'real and the Unreal'

 

Son of a Barren Woman (Vandhyaa putra)

 

Rope mistaken for a Snake

 

dream state versus waking state

 

WHY NO mention of MITHYA ?

 

Cloth and Yarn, pot and gold etc?

 

We got stuck like a 'bee' on the edge of the Honey JAR instead of

going deep into the bottom of the jar and sipping the Honey!! such

are the limitations of metaphors!! They are way poiters only ... They

are not to be mistaken for the actual siddhanta.

 

Many members critcized chitta saying he deviated from a truthful

presentation of the Bhasyas, this is not what shankara meant or this

is not this metaphor meant or this is not what happens in the waking

state etc....

 

Well, my point is this ...Chitta presented 'Real and Unreal' as he

understod it !

 

AND Poornamidam is Poornamadah TOO!!

 

Similarly to the Bhakta - the world is real

 

To a jnani -the world is both Real and unreal ...

 

FROM neti neti we come to Vasudevam OM sarvam Iti!

 

You know, Nar-ji, i am not 'intelligent' like you all ! I am A very

simple minded person.... But to see God, you do not need 'Physical'

eyes .... You only need the 'eyes of the scriptures' (Shastrasya

chakshuhu)

 

And finally, let me share with you an important passage from a Sufi

saint Hazrat Inayat khan ...on the Law OF RTHM...

 

"The law of rhythm can be considered as governing four actions: right

or wrong rhythm in feeling, right or wrong rhythm in thinking, right

or wrong rhythm in speaking, and right or wrong rhythm in acting. Not

only hate but even love that is not maintained by rhythm will fail;

not only an evil thought but even a good one will prove to be

disastrous without regard for rhythm. Not only false but even true

speech which has no rhythm will prove to be fatal; not only a wrong

action but even a right one devoid of rhythm will prove to be out of

place.

 

(SNIP)

 

Every plane of man's being is dependent upon the other planes, For

instance if the body has lost its rhythm, something goes wrong with

the mind; if the mind has lost its rhythm, the body goes wrong; if

the heart has lost its rhythm, the mind is puzzled; and if the rhythm

of the soul is lost, then all is wrong. "

 

(©2000-2003 JimDonovanMusic.com - - site by

Supageni.us)

 

well, my opinion may be biased but i Found the 'Rhythm' in chitta's

posts...

 

Love and regards

[Guest guest]

Namaste dear Adiji.

 

Thanks for your good thoughts.

> Btw, i was amused To read that You were starved of 'internet'

access

> In India... the one thing i discovered when i was in india was,

even

> in remotte villages of Tanjore, for every 'Tiffin Shop' there was

an

> internet cafe and an STD booth!! smiles!!

 

[Yes. There are a number of cyber cafes but strangely less in number

now than last year. But, I cannot compose my thoughts for Advaitin

sitting in there simply because the connections are very slow and the

domineering better half is close by shopping or waiting for me to

join in at lunch or dinner with quite unreasonable time-limits. Then

there are scores of annual commitments to be attended to besides very

demanding relatives and friends. The annual vacation, therefore, is

a virtual running about. Any visits to cyber cafes ends in replying

my daughter abroad who writes profuse mails. Unfortunately,

therefore, I couldn't even keep my appointment with our dear

Bhaskarji in Bangalore.]

 

> Here, NAIR-JI, If you would permit me , i would like to draw your

> attention To SWAMI KRISHNANADA'S (DIVINE LIFE SOCIETY)' series on

the

> Ontological argument In PHILOSOPHY ....

>

> http:// www.swami-krishnananda.org/disc/disc_07.html - 32k -

Cached -

 

[Thanks. I have read him. Very enlightening. I quoted him before to

our Stigji and also to Murthyji yesterday.]

>

> Nair-ji writes

>

> "The nine essays are nine peaks, flying over which the reader has

> the option where to land and perch without taxing his wings."

>

> And What about the Summit?

>

> The concluding and final essay ON 'ISHWARA AND MAYA'

>

> THAT WAS MY FAVORITE PART!!!

>

> it will be yours too !!! For i know You are a great shakta at

heart,

> outwardly an Advaitin!!! Smiles!!

 

[Yes. That definitely is the peakest of the nine. But, I am sure

the summit is yet to come. Let us await CN to reappear with his

concluding piece.]

> You know, Nar-ji, i am not 'intelligent' like you all ! I am A very

> simple minded person....

 

[That is a miserable understatement!]

 

 

But to see God, you do not need 'Physical'

> eyes .... You only need the 'eyes of the scriptures' (Shastrasya

> chakshuhu)

 

[Well said. Physical eyes are important (and bothersome too) only

when we delude ourselves to believing that we can't be without them.

This is not to underrate their importance in day-to-day matters like

my typing this out to you. But, if you really delve into and

understand the scriptures, you will know that you keep perceiving

through Grace and physical eyes like all the other sense organs, mind

intellect etc. are just incidental in that Grace. Just take a look at

the blind and yet gifted personages in history. She is the only Eye

and decides for you what to see and when. The modalities thereof are

not for us to bother much about except for scientific curiosity.

Well, then that scientific botheration also is to be understood as

Her work. The world then shines in Her splendour and you are at Her

Feet in total surrender!]

>

>

> well, my opinion may be biased but i Found the 'Rhythm' in chitta's

> posts...

 

[No. You are not biased. I too found the rhythm despite the non-

traditional route he has taken.]

 

PraNAms and regards.

 

Madathil Nair