Guest guest Posted August 14, 2004 Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 The current discussion of real and unreal has set me thinking of the distinction between 'rupa' and 'svarupa'. The result is a piece of verse that I am appending below. This is of course a delicate question, which is all too liable to descend into mind-boggling conundrums. Sorry if I've fallen prey to that. Ananda Rupa and svarupa ---------------- Whatever may appear perceived through sense and mind is just a 'form'. It's nothing but a seeming shape produced by sight or sound or smell or taste or touch or by some thought or feeling in the course of time. As time proceeds, in world or mind, such seeming shapes become transformed, by changing ways of seeing and observing and describing things from various different points of view. Whatever gets perceived through sense, or is conceived or felt through mind, it's thereby shown externally, through some external instrument that makes an outside show of it, to something other than itself. That 'something other' stands elsewhere, out in a world of space and time, where standpoints change and thus produce the changes of external show. But what is it that's truly known through intervening instruments of sense and mind which show all these apparent forms of seeming things that are observed from the outside? To know what truly is perceived, the forms produced by sense and mind must be interpreted to find what is observed just as it is, in its own self, just as it stands there in its own reality. Where that reality is found, no doubtfully known instrument of sense or mind can interfere between what knows and what is known. The knower there must stand at one with the reality that's known. What is there known is only self, just in its own identity, unchanged by any outside show that's seen by looking from elsewhere. That self is known, just as it is, through inner sight: reflecting back, beneath all show of sense and mind, to knowing as identity of that which rightly knows with the reality that's truly known. That is not 'rupa', not a form that mind and sense have seen transformed from any outside point of view. Instead, it is 'svarupa': just that inmost form which is what's found by penetrating outward forms to stand at one with what is known, just as it is within itself. There, every last remaining trace of transformation is dissolved in truth beyond all compromise with ignorance and falsity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2004 Report Share Posted August 14, 2004 --- Ananda Wood <awood wrote: ........... ........... > > There, every last remaining trace > of transformation is dissolved > in truth beyond all compromise > with ignorance and falsity. > > Beautiful Anandaji. Reading that was refressing indeed in the dissolution in the truth, divine. God Bless You. Hari OM! Sadananda ===== What you have is destiny and what you do with what you have is self-effort. Future destiny is post destiny modified by your present action. You are not only the prisoner of your past but master of your future. - Swami Chinmayananda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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