Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Namaste, Brahman can bee found by everybody who search the Self. Brahman can't be realized by some intellectual effort only....it's necessary to give up the whole ego mind to become the Self. Most of people who found complete Brahman...don't care anymore if they live or die....the fight to cross the ocean of illusions is over for them. Many realized Masters gave up the body even after a short stay....and became invisible for the ego mind of others. Our Self let appear the right Master and Guru when our ego mind wish soo much to see and meet Him....in a form. Our Self let enter deep love for Brahman when the intellect-ego- mind reach the limits...of our dream-world. let's have a break ....and let melt all the intellect....into an ocean of love....into Brahman Brahman is the Self Everything is born and appear....because of ignorance....and will disappear....when the Self is realized when all the sense organs are "focused" on Brahman....we can see that all forms disappear...light is remaining.... Brahman is formless.... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 --- dennis_travis33 <dennis_travis33 wrote: I am sorry to state Marc - Lot of misconceptions are floating in this message - can you tell me where from you got this message ? > > Namaste, > > Brahman can bee found by everybody who search the Self. Neither one can 'find' brahman nor one can 'find' the self. > Brahman can't be realized by some intellectual effort only....it's > necessary to give up the whole ego mind to become the Self. That one has to give up something to realize also has to be given up. > Most of people who found complete Brahman...don't care anymore if > they live or die....the fight to cross the ocean of illusions is over > for them. One cannot find 'complete brahman' -the statement is a self-contradiction. In brahman - life, death, fight, not to fight, ocean, ocean to cross, and illusion, all have no relevance to care or not to care about. > Many realized Masters gave up the body even after a short stay....and > became invisible for the ego mind of others. I must say this is absolutely wrong statement if you pardon my saying so. Realized masters need not give up anyting, since there is nothing to give-up, when one realizes that one is Brahman, which includes all those that one wants to give up and even the notions of giving up. Short stay or long stay are all irrelevant from brahman point. He cannot but stay since he is eternal. Visibility and invisibility are again has no relevance in terms of realization. > Our Self let appear the right Master and Guru when our ego mind wish > soo much to see and meet Him....in a form. How can ourselves is seen in a form, we as seers even if we wish to see ourselves as gurus or right masters. Hallucinated-forms are not forms of guru either! > Our Self let enter deep love for Brahman when the intellect-ego- mind > reach the limits...of our dream-world. How can you love Brahman when you do not know Brahman. When you know brahmna who else is there to love? Can you love gaagaabuubu? > let's have a break ....and let melt all the intellect....into an > ocean of love....into Brahman > > Brahman is the Self That self - which is the self of all and all in the self. > > Everything is born and appear....because of ignorance....and will > disappear....when the Self is realized It will not disappear but it is understood as the Brahman that I am. sarva bhuutastam aatmaanam sarva bhuutanica aatmani. Self in all and all in the self. > > when all the sense organs are "focused" on Brahman....we can see that > all forms disappear...light is remaining.... Light is also limited and is different from sound and different from taste. It is the light of knowledge my friend. Knowledge comes by inquiry. Inquiry can be done only by the intellect. Intellect cannot do the inquiry if the mind and senses are running away. Hence the meditation along the lines prescribed by scriptures. > Brahman is formless.... That follows the very meaning of brahman - that which is infiniteness and that which is infiniteness cannot have form. Hari OM! Sadananda > > Marc > > > > > > > ===== What you have is destiny and what you do with what you have is self-effort. Future destiny is post destiny modified by your present action. You are not only the prisoner of your past but master of your future. - Swami Chinmayananda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2004 Report Share Posted August 19, 2004 Namaste Sri Sadananda, thank you for your detailed answer. what can i add to your words... this your words are coming from a person who know Brahman. indead, one who know Brahman don't need to care anymore about many things.....we can't expect from anybody who know Brahman to do...or not to do ...whatever One who know Brahman expect the truth in communication with others. Truly i agree with your words.... I don't know exactly the scriptures...and that this is necessary to communicate in this Group. I believe it's not important "from where" the messages are coming from.....if there is some truth in it....or not...this is important. I don't need to ask where your words are coming from. "Self in all and all > in the self. " Could you please write more about this.... i wrote about the love to Brahman... i mean that Brahman Is there inside us.....it's this formless eternal truth and energy from which we get all we Are...... with love Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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