Guest guest Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 Namaste. The concluding instalment of advaita dialogue containing entries 801-1008 may now be viewed at http://www.geocities.com/profvk/advaitadialoguepage5.html My PraNAms to all the great gurus of the world and to the Guru of all Gurus, Shri dakshiNAmUrti. V. Krishnamurthy P.S. Now that the entire document is before you, may I request readers to let me know whether there is any error of one or more of the following kinds: 1. I may have committed a blatant error from the normally accepted advaita teaching; 2. I may have been very vague ; and 3. I might have added confusion to an already complicated issue. Thanks and PraNAms to all advaitins. profvk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 Professor-ji writes in his concluding dialogue ... ("The temporary characteristics that we discard in favour of the essentials are called `taTastha-lakshhaNas'. 843. S: And the essential ones? 844. G: They are called `svarUpa-lakshhaNas'. Those of the Supreme are: Existence, Knowledge and Bliss." ) Professor-ji Yes! i have also read that it is the recognition of 'swarupa' laksnas that lead to the Ultimate 'Reality' but.... lakshanas mean 'characteristics' or qualities! are we still not in the realm of 'Duality' when we Describe BraHman as 'Existence , Knowledge and Bliss' -sat-chi-ananda swarupa!!! thank you once again for your efforts to explain a complex phenomena in simple layman's language ! with warmest regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2004 Report Share Posted August 23, 2004 advaitin, "adi_shakthi16" <adi_shakthi16> wrote: > Professor-ji writes in his concluding dialogue ... > > ("The temporary characteristics that we discard in favour of the > essentials are called `taTastha-lakshhaNas'. > > 843. S: And the essential ones? > > 844. G: They are called `svarUpa-lakshhaNas'. Those of the Supreme > are: Existence, Knowledge and Bliss." ) > > Professor-ji > > Yes! i have also read that it is the recognition of 'swarupa' laksnas > that lead to the Ultimate 'Reality' but.... > > lakshanas mean 'characteristics' or qualities! > > are we still not in the realm of 'Duality' when we Describe BraHman > as 'Existence , Knowledge and Bliss' -sat-chi-ananda swarupa!!! Namaste You are right, Adi-ji. If you think of Satyam, jnAnam and anantam as attributes of brahman, then it is certainly wrong. That is why that passage from the Upanishads is taken as the distingusihing definition of brahman, which distingusihes it from all non-self. So my use of the words, "characteristics" is technically inaccurate. But it is customary to call them 'svarUpa-lakshhaNas' with the clear understanding that they are not attributes but they themselves are brahman. In this connection you may refer to the corresponding passage in Taittiriya Upanishad 2.1 and see any commentary in the advaitic tradition. But you may also want to read the following: http://homepage.eircom.net/~ombhurbhuva/analogy.htm I am sure you, Adi-ji, have read my article on "The Absolute as it is" at www.geocities.com/profvk/gohitvip/34.html PraNAms to all advaitins profvk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2004 Report Share Posted August 28, 2004 Thank you Professor-ji for the wonderful links ... There are three ways to approach the Absolute Truth ( braHman) BraHmeti Paramatmeti Bhagvan iti sabdayate The Absolute Truth is 'ONE' , BUT some accept the Truth as impersonal BraHman some as the 'supersoul' or paramatma existing everywhere and some as Bhagwan with all the attributes and Kalyana Gunas. YES ! God with form or without form - Sakara or Nirakara . SRIMAD BHAGVATAM says Isvarah paramah krsnah sac-cid-ananda vigraha anadir adir Govindah sarva karana karanam " Krishna, known as Govinda, is the supreme controller. He has an eternal , blissful, spiritual body. He is the Origin of all . He has no other orogin , for he is the prime cause of all causes." AS lord Krishna himself says in the Srimad Bhagwat Gita , Bhaktya mam abhijanati only by devotional service am I to be known! on this note, i will end ... Wishing you and yours a very auspicious Krishna Janmashtami ! Sadar Pranams! (You are right, Adi-ji. If you think of Satyam, jnAnam and anantam as > attributes of brahman, then it is certainly wrong. That is why that > passage from the Upanishads is taken as the distingusihing > definition of brahman, which distingusihes it from all non-self. So > my use of the words, "characteristics" is technically inaccurate. > But it is customary to call them 'svarUpa-lakshhaNas' with the clear > understanding that they are not attributes but they themselves are > brahman. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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